clarke ali trolly jack failure......with me under the car!

clarke ali trolly jack failure......with me under the car!

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Beedub

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1,959 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Globs said:
BliarOut said:
Ever tried frantically to lift a car with a jack as the jacking points sink into the body? yikes
Ah, happy memories of British Leyland wink
ive actually never seen that happen BUt.. i would panic like crazy

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Beedub said:
Globs said:
BliarOut said:
Ever tried frantically to lift a car with a jack as the jacking points sink into the body? yikes
Ah, happy memories of British Leyland wink
ive actually never seen that happen BUt.. i would panic like crazy
And insist on secondary supports from that point on hehe

Slade Alive

784 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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BliarOut said:
:taptap: Can. You. Read?
I can read where it does not say on the equipment itself what it says in the instructions - often discarded, lost, not passed on, loaned, whatever. Do you keep your instructions hanging from the handle in a clear plastic envelope just in case someone uses your jack in your absence? You know, one can't be too careful given a jack in the wrong hands is a potential killer biggrin

NiceCupOfTea

25,295 posts

252 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Beedub said:
holy st... even the big ones fail....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy3cJzl2dCA
Looks more like it fell off. What the hell is it anyway? Just look likes one pole supporting in the middle yikes

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Slade Alive said:
It's s simple matter to point out the safety of a jack. To suggest a jack is a lifting device and not a supporting device is in itself foolish. If all a jack is capable of is lifting but not holding then it is dangerous unsafe life threatening, and should be avoided at all costs - end of.
Seals and valves, especially the hand operated ones in car jacks, always weep a little oil back into the res. They creep downwards, they do not hold position, there is no mechanical lock, that what axle stands are for.

Slade Alive

784 posts

160 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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PhillipM said:
Seals and valves, especially the hand operated ones in car jacks, always weep a little oil back into the res. They creep downwards, they do not hold position, there is no mechanical lock, that what axle stands are for.
Go jack off blabla

BadgerBill

274 posts

240 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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[quote=Beedub] if we go down your train of thought, we better not use an axle stand.... that may collapse and fail, [quote]

Well you are sort of right, except a stand is designed expressly to take a static weight for an indeterminate period, a jack is designed to lift that weight. From your other comments about you yourself using supports rather than relying on just a jack, don't you think that being purposely daft about it somewhat detracts from the general good advice that is being offered on the thread?

BB

The Wookie

13,965 posts

229 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Max_Torque said:
Many years ago i had a cable snap on a 4poster ramp, which i was under, and which had a LR110 on at the time! Of course it only dropped an inch or so till the secondary latches caught it, but, it was deffo an underpant changing moment........... ;-)
fk me, how has no-one else not noticed this little gem?

Underpant changing moment... I would have spent the next twenty minutes running around the garage squealing like a girl! hehe

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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I just bought one of these low entry ones used it all weekend to lift the cerb seems pretty good for a cheapo so far.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/German-Unitec-Low-Profile-2-...

JM

3,170 posts

207 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Beedub said:
i went to cosco and picked up a very handy 2 tonne low slung unit, very substantial unit and much wider/ longer, its made in the usa by a us company called arcan or something similar, very chuffed with it.
Made in China though.

Well mine was, just checked the box.

box said:
Made in China to Powerstation, LLC specification.

Riff Raff

5,127 posts

196 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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What amazes me about this thread so far is that nobody has commented on the OP effectively throwing away £100's worth of trolley jack which can probably be fixed for a couple of quid's worth of new seals and a bit of labour, and has then gone out and bought another trolley jack. What's he going to do when the seals on that go? Buy yet another one?

Maybe I've got a bit of an axe to grind here. I have two trolley jacks, one 2.5 tonne which is friggin' enormous and is hernia inducing to move around, and the lightweight aluminium one from Machine Mart that the OP has just binned. Guess which one I use all the time? Yes, it's the lightweight, easy to push around one (which by the way hasn't given me a moments bother). And if the seals fail, or weep, I'll buy some new ones and fit them.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Cheap made in China tools aren't an issue, cheap none branded un-quality controlled tools are. Clarke, Snap-on, Halfords etc all have brands and reputations but Sun factory making sun brand this week don't care if people stop buying sun as chances are they will be moon brand next time you see them on sale. It's proper quality control and reputable reliable safety standard markings that matter.

Schmeeky

4,192 posts

218 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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At least this guy's doing it right - one stick to support the weight, one stick for backup! silly


Riff Raff

5,127 posts

196 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Schmeeky said:
At least this guy's doing it right - one stick to support the weight, one stick for backup! silly

Is he welding the fuel tank? yikes The sticks might be the least of his problems!

bimsb6

8,045 posts

222 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Riff Raff said:
What amazes me about this thread so far is that nobody has commented on the OP effectively throwing away £100's worth of trolley jack which can probably be fixed for a couple of quid's worth of new seals and a bit of labour, and has then gone out and bought another trolley jack. What's he going to do when the seals on that go? Buy yet another one?
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no just take it back to costco ,get refund ,buy another.

busta

4,504 posts

234 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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If I don't need to take the wheels off, I drive up on a couple of bits of railway sleeper which gives enough clearance to get the creeper under.

Otherwise, I have a cheap 2 ton trolley jack which I use to get the car up enough to get my 8 ton trolley jack under a cross member. Then I chock up under the sills with more bits of sleeper. Easy enough when you have the kit- I've been changing wheels on 6 ton tractors today, each wheel weighs nearly as much as my car smile

bromers2

1,867 posts

251 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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My local tyre fitter never uses axle stands when changing Tyres - should I be concerned ?

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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Riff Raff said:
What amazes me about this thread so far is that nobody has commented on the OP effectively throwing away £100's worth of trolley jack which can probably be fixed for a couple of quid's worth of new seals and a bit of labour, and has then gone out and bought another trolley jack. What's he going to do when the seals on that go? Buy yet another one?

Maybe I've got a bit of an axe to grind here. I have two trolley jacks, one 2.5 tonne which is friggin' enormous and is hernia inducing to move around, and the lightweight aluminium one from Machine Mart that the OP has just binned. Guess which one I use all the time? Yes, it's the lightweight, easy to push around one (which by the way hasn't given me a moments bother). And if the seals fail, or weep, I'll buy some new ones and fit them.
what amazes me is people like you that cant read jump to conclusions, if you actually took the time to read the thread youd have seen the part where i wrote i took the jack back to machine mart, who incidently asked me to leave it with them to have it repaired and inspected.............

Now before you engage your fingers and start typing, use your brain and actually take the time to read the thread properly. once i get the jack back i will stick it on ebay to cover the costs of my new one.

Beedub

Original Poster:

1,959 posts

227 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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bromers2 said:
My local tyre fitter never uses axle stands when changing Tyres - should I be concerned ?
he really should no better than that imo...... is your car safe in his hands??

bimsb6

8,045 posts

222 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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bromers2 said:
My local tyre fitter never uses axle stands when changing Tyres - should I be concerned ?
no, he's replaceable .your own head isn't .