Sainsbury's Lorries Today - Sloooooooow

[martin mrt]

GC8 said:

I cant find an HGV tachometer picture in Google - the green area of higher efficiency usually runs out about 5mph before the limited top speed. The further out you have to venture to reach 56mph (or whatever your limit was), then the greater the saving if limited to 50mph.

Partially correct, on some vehicles fitted with overdrive top gears they are designed to operate at 56mph so as their top gear is in the most efficient rpm scale, knock 6 mph and 150rpm off it and it knocks the savings claims out of the window.

As stated for limiters to work effectively they should ALL be set at the same speed, variables such as tread depth when tachographs are being calibrated can give a + or - 2-3mph when tyres are changed are unavoidable

[philmots]

'fuel efficent driving'

The drivers may or may not be on a fuel bonus, too.

[FunBusMk2]

Many companies (especially third party hauliers) are expected to prove to their customers how they are running efficiently. Reducing vehicle speeds is one of the first things to happen.

[Mr_B]

Tesco also limit theirs to 50 I believe. Drivers are usually on timed deliveries ( not allowed in early or late ) and also plod along even slower if they are running ahead of time.

[R0G]

jbi said:

Lorries should be travelling at the same speed as the rest of the traffic on the motorways to help ease congestion and reduce accidents

Please take a trip to the EU Parliament and get them to change the EU law on 56mph speed limiters
OR
Get the UK Govt to reduce the speed limits for all other road users to those of the trucks

Either will sort what you suggest

[Panda76]

The shopping trolleys have been down to 50 mph for quite a while now.
The only time you might see the shopping trolleys going faster than 50 mph is if a subbie~(contractor) unit is pulling the trailer.

Fuel is a massive cost in logistics these days.It costs approx £560(at todays diesel prices) in a 24 hr period in fuel for just one of the trucks at my place of work.We have 45 running around about 360 days a year and are ran 24 hours a day with day and night shifts.
The sums are right there and the total is a bit eye opening.(although we do get a slight discount buying in bulk for the pumps in the yard)
Any savings that can be made in fuel alone these days are being pounced on.

[jbi]

R0G said:

jbi said:

Lorries should be travelling at the same speed as the rest of the traffic on the motorways to help ease congestion and reduce accidents

Please take a trip to the EU Parliament and get them to change the EU law on 56mph speed limiters
OR
Get the UK Govt to reduce the speed limits for all other road users to those of the trucks

Either will sort what you suggest

I appreciate things are unlikely to change while the watermelons in the EU parliament are pulling the strings.

Just a waiting game really until the EU implodes itself.

[R0G]

jbi said:

I appreciate things are unlikely to change while the watermelons in the EU parliament are pulling the strings.

Just a waiting game really until the EU implodes itself.

Or we do the sensible thing and say ***** **** to the EU

[Sam.F]

I find if there's a queue of slow traffic on the A69 at the front will invariably be a sainsburys lorry. I am well aware they are limited to 40mph on single carriageways but find that sainsburys lorries in particular seem to be driven by very belligerent individuals who will not under any circumstances pull into lay-bys to allow the sometimes massive queues to clear, whereas TESCO and Morrisons ones usually do pull over every once in a while.

I'd contest that on hilly single carriageways it would actually be more efficient to go a bit quicker anyway as when the HGVs actually stick to the 40 limit they invariably end up down at 20-25 on the hills in a low gear where 5 years ago they'd have just used their momentum to help them on the hills.

[Dan_1981]

Alot of Tesco & Sainsburys lorrys aren't actually Tescos or Sainsburys.

[FunBusMk2]

That is true. Although 95% of Tesco fleet is their own. Stobart run in their own colours when on Tesco business (sometimes with a Tesco trailer though). A small amount of Tesco branded fleet is run by Stobart in the North West.

[Gruber]

The 50mph limit is mainly to do with helping the major retailers achieve environmental aims.

There is a tangential fuel cost saving, but the CO2 saving is the main "win".

[GC8]

martin mrt said:

GC8 said:

I cant find an HGV tachometer picture in Google - the green area of higher efficiency usually runs out about 5mph before the limited top speed. The further out you have to venture to reach 56mph (or whatever your limit was), then the greater the saving if limited to 50mph.

Partially correct, on some vehicles fitted with overdrive top gears they are designed to operate at 56mph so as their top gear is in the most efficient rpm scale, knock 6 mph and 150rpm off it and it knocks the savings claims out of the window.

As stated for limiters to work effectively they should ALL be set at the same speed, variables such as tread depth when tachographs are being calibrated can give a + or - 2-3mph when tyres are changed are unavoidable

Martin, in order to only be partially correct I need to be partially wrong too. Which part of my post is incorrect?

[Dan_1981]

FunBusMk2 said:

That is true. Although 95% of Tesco fleet is their own. Stobart run in their own colours when on Tesco business (sometimes with a Tesco trailer though). A small amount of Tesco branded fleet is run by Stobart in the North West.

I used to work for NFT so planned alot for Sainsburys / Morrisons / Asda / M&S etc. We ran branded trailers for all of them.

[Roadrunner23]

A friend of mine drives for Sainsburys and the reason he told me was that they are given loads of time to make their drops/collection so he takes his time to get there with the cruise control set at 50 mph.

[egor110]

Sam.F said:

I find if there's a queue of slow traffic on the A69 at the front will invariably be a sainsburys lorry. I am well aware they are limited to 40mph on single carriageways but find that sainsburys lorries in particular seem to be driven by very belligerent individuals who will not under any circumstances pull into lay-bys to allow the sometimes massive queues to clear, whereas TESCO and Morrisons ones usually do pull over every once in a while.

I'd contest that on hilly single carriageways it would actually be more efficient to go a bit quicker anyway as when the HGVs actually stick to the 40 limit they invariably end up down at 20-25 on the hills in a low gear where 5 years ago they'd have just used their momentum to help them on the hills.

That's becasue pulling over and stopping would bugger up their mpg, as starting from a stop is a no,no in a hgv.

[FunBusMk2]

Dan_1981 said:

FunBusMk2 said:

That is true. Although 95% of Tesco fleet is their own. Stobart run in their own colours when on Tesco business (sometimes with a Tesco trailer though). A small amount of Tesco branded fleet is run by Stobart in the North West.

I used to work for NFT so planned alot for Sainsburys / Morrisons / Asda / M&S etc. We ran branded trailers for all of them.

I wasn't saying you were wrong at all, just that Tesco are slightly different in their operation. NFT do a massive amount of supermarket work like you say - Fowler Welch do some too. I nearly went to work as Planning Manager at NFT - useless information I know!

[Dan_1981]

FunBusMk2 said:

Dan_1981 said:

FunBusMk2 said:

That is true. Although 95% of Tesco fleet is their own. Stobart run in their own colours when on Tesco business (sometimes with a Tesco trailer though). A small amount of Tesco branded fleet is run by Stobart in the North West.

I used to work for NFT so planned alot for Sainsburys / Morrisons / Asda / M&S etc. We ran branded trailers for all of them.

I wasn't saying you were wrong at all, just that Tesco are slightly different in their operation. NFT do a massive amount of supermarket work like you say - Fowler Welch do some too. I nearly went to work as Planning Manager at NFT - useless information I know!

No - I wasn't suggesting you were!

Did you interview last year sometime? May / June time by any chance?

[FunBusMk2]

I did indeed, was through Michael Page and to be Alfreton based.

[Dan_1981]

As was I - I left at the end of June.