New Truck time

Author
Discussion

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Friday 26th October 2012
quotequote all
After 13 years it about bloody time!



That is all bounce

Bitofbully

394 posts

140 months

Friday 26th October 2012
quotequote all
What's the score with UPS vans? - surely it doesn't make financial sense to order coach built vans, rather than just take off the shelf solutions like all other couriers?

Although I do note that they don't do a custom cab build anymore.

Triumph Man

8,698 posts

169 months

Saturday 27th October 2012
quotequote all
Mercedes-Benz are STILL making the Vario? Still, I suppose it's a good van!

dav123a

1,220 posts

160 months

Saturday 27th October 2012
quotequote all
I still see some older stuff from ups n/ m reg. What sort of mileage do they finish with ? What happens to them when they are done with never seen them used by anyone else.

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Saturday 27th October 2012
quotequote all
Bitofbully said:
What's the score with UPS vans? - surely it doesn't make financial sense to order coach built vans, rather than just take off the shelf solutions like all other couriers?

Although I do note that they don't do a custom cab build anymore.
The UPS trucks are designed so that they can get maximum productivity from the drivers, to do that they need the perfect delivery truck. Everything is designed with that in mind. The shelves in the back mean every drop is in order and stays that way, all the locks are automatic so no fumbling with keys. UPS also buy the package cars outright so get maximum service from them, my old one is a 1995 model with close to 1 million km's on it, they also don't sell them on, about 10 years ago a company made off the shelf package cars built on the same chassis but they were crap and UPS was the only company to actually order any.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Saturday 27th October 2012
quotequote all
the other reason you see old ones is because the re-use the bodies and chassis a lot of the time

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Saturday 27th October 2012
quotequote all
Isn't one of the other reasons they don't sell them on and they stick to the design is that it is a trust thing a UPS van will be driven by a UPS driver and be delivering, as opposed to some companies who use jobbing drivers with a ratty plain white van, one gets the door opened and looks good the other makes you wonder before you open your door.

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
quotequote all
Its all down to image, the vans are iconic and even if they were painted white and sold on if one were to be involved in a serious accident or something else people would still associate it with UPS regardless of whether it they still owned it, its all about protecting the brand.

They run the vans for so long because they are custom made (apparently mine cost £70k) so they need to get their moneys worth plus they are all ally so they wont rust away. They can replace the bodies if required but i've never known one to be replaced, the body shop works wonders with fiberglass and filler.

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
quotequote all
What time saving features do you have in/the front of the van?
I'm in the same line of work but have a red transit. Ours are bog standard apart from the pda dock.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
quotequote all
egor110 said:
I'm in the same line of work but have a red transit. Ours are bog standard apart from the pda dock.

You forgot the dents, elastic bands around the gear lever, floor covered in P739 cards and 3 years of old food and drink packets stuffed behind the passenger seat.

Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Sunday 28th October 19:28

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
quotequote all
egor110 said:
What time saving features do you have in/the front of the van?
I'm in the same line of work but have a red transit. Ours are bog standard apart from the pda dock.
The doors (Inc the rear) have an auto lock feature which means no keys required, they lock automatically when closed and unlock with the swipe of a wristband, the same system is also used for the ignition, when you scan the wristband the open the front door you can hop straight in the seat and drive away. Compared to my old van its a lot quicker

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
quotequote all
Egbert Nobacon said:

You forgot the dents, elastic bands around the gear lever, floor covered in P739 cards and 3 years of old food and drink packets stuffed behind the passenger seat.

Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Sunday 28th October 19:28

You obviously work for the same company. New thing down here is the starter motors are breaking on the combis, yet we can't get them repaired until we actually breakdown.

daydotz

1,742 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
quotequote all
very smart do they not rotate vans amongst other drivers ?

what happened to the ivecos i read something about them having the same technology but can't remember the last time i saw one of them its normally the old us ones ?

philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
quotequote all
U don't know if they've chaned the design but i used to drive a Vario in my old job, I think it was a 2006.. The filler for the ad-blue tank was deep in the engine bay.

Bad design as it used to drip everywhere, all over rubber pipes and wires.. Apparently the pig piss rotts straight through it!

I enjoyed driving it, though.

Bitofbully

394 posts

140 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
quotequote all
What is this adblue stuff and why do commercial vehicles need it?

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
quotequote all


Ad Blu filler is still in the same place although it has a huge neck around it to avoid the spillages, The Ad Blu is added to the exhaust to reduce the emissions, don't know exactly how it works but that's the basics.

Vans are sometimes rotated, with emissions regs in London it means they usually get new vehicles to keep up with the changing regs and the older stuff is pushed out to depots outside London. In the depots new vehicles are usually given to those drivers who have longest service/accident free record etc or in some cases like me needing a bigger vehicle. These new ones are 4ft longer that the standard truck which doesn't sound like much but can equate to 20-30 more drops or the ability to work more efficiently as you have more space.

The Ivecos i think are being phased out or moved to depots near to dealers as they have been so troublesome, i had one for a while but it spent more time at the dealer than it did on the road, they were all moved after about 12 months to Southampton were there was a dealer on the same estate, the new model is supposed to be much improved but as far as i know we haven't bought any, saying that the old American style trucks are supposed to be gone at the end of this year or at least mothballed for future use, some 460 new trucks should be replacing them.

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
quotequote all
Do the shelves in the back adjust to take different sized packages?

Do you load up according to postcode area?

Obviously i deliver to a much smaller area than you , i just load the letters in trays and have the parcels in 3 areas which gradually work there way to the back and get delivered.

Do you do collections once delivery's finished?

Lastly are the vans automatic?

Nickyboy

Original Poster:

6,700 posts

235 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
quotequote all
egor110 said:
Do the shelves in the back adjust to take different sized packages?

Do you load up according to postcode area?

Obviously i deliver to a much smaller area than you , i just load the letters in trays and have the parcels in 3 areas which gradually work there way to the back and get delivered.

Do you do collections once delivery's finished?

Lastly are the vans automatic?
Stacked and racked in drop order, usually each shelf is one part of a postcode depending on postcode size. 112 Deliveries today & 29 collections




Generally collections are done after deliveries but most drivers do them as when they are ready during the day, the only exception is the daily collections which are done at the same time every day.

Sadly the vans are all manual, i'm guessing for ease of use and the driving style.

Digby

8,242 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
quotequote all
Nickyboy said:
112 Deliveries today & 29 collections
Ruddy Nora! I feel down if I have more than three hehe

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Friday 9th November 2012
quotequote all
Nickyboy said:
Stacked and racked in drop order, usually each shelf is one part of a postcode depending on postcode size. 112 Deliveries today & 29 collections




Generally collections are done after deliveries but most drivers do them as when they are ready during the day, the only exception is the daily collections which are done at the same time every day.

Sadly the vans are all manual, i'm guessing for ease of use and the driving style.
That looks lovely and organised, i'll post a pic of my van around christmas where it's just rammed full.