Transporter bed fabrication.
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No need to chop; it unbolts. 
So yesterday in the post I got a shiny new starter motor...
...Techno part so whilst fitting it I was wearing white overalls tied around the waste with an orange hi-viz vest and yellow dust mask with a capital letter "A" written on it in marker pen.
At lest it fits this time. The relay wire had been cut...
...so I used a pair of spade terminals to reconnect them. My thoughts were I could put a hidden immobiliser switch in the dash at some point.
Sadly Ford had already thought of that and this...
...and this...
...is all I get for my efforts. Not even a click from a relay anywhere. I've tried various combinations of bypassing the fuel pump relay and starter relay knowing I could add a push button start quite easily but to no avail. She's dead in the water and if scrap wasn't at a pathetic £80 per Ton at the moment the van would be long gone.
So yesterday in the post I got a shiny new starter motor...
...Techno part so whilst fitting it I was wearing white overalls tied around the waste with an orange hi-viz vest and yellow dust mask with a capital letter "A" written on it in marker pen.
At lest it fits this time. The relay wire had been cut...
...so I used a pair of spade terminals to reconnect them. My thoughts were I could put a hidden immobiliser switch in the dash at some point.
Sadly Ford had already thought of that and this...
...and this...
...is all I get for my efforts. Not even a click from a relay anywhere. I've tried various combinations of bypassing the fuel pump relay and starter relay knowing I could add a push button start quite easily but to no avail. She's dead in the water and if scrap wasn't at a pathetic £80 per Ton at the moment the van would be long gone.
It's the factory chipped key reading jobbie. It has a fuse and relay in the dash fuse box. The key reader could be at fault or because the van has been laid up for two years without a battery the memory has been wiped and need to be reset. My nearest Ford garage will charge me £90 to look at it that's on top of at least another £160 recovery there and delivery back.
I could try another chip reader with a key taped to it but if it's coded to another box somewhere then that won't work either. I've bypassed the fuel pump relay and can set a trigger to turn the van over on the starter motor. The engine sounds free enough and ran the battery out without firing up. I guess there's no fuel in the lines and there doesn't appear to be a manual primer pump anywhere so I'll just have to recharge the batteries and hope it runs through after a while. Or work out some way of manually priming it myself. Bleaugh!
I could try another chip reader with a key taped to it but if it's coded to another box somewhere then that won't work either. I've bypassed the fuel pump relay and can set a trigger to turn the van over on the starter motor. The engine sounds free enough and ran the battery out without firing up. I guess there's no fuel in the lines and there doesn't appear to be a manual primer pump anywhere so I'll just have to recharge the batteries and hope it runs through after a while. Or work out some way of manually priming it myself. Bleaugh!
Play the flashy light game to narrow it down
http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=PATS_Imm...
There's loads of stuff in the transit forum on pats faults and how to get around it, most of it sounds quite easy.
http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=PATS_Imm...
There's loads of stuff in the transit forum on pats faults and how to get around it, most of it sounds quite easy.
"Make it as low as possible to make loading easier".
I was looking at airbag suspension from a scrap Range Rover for this but these...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290737531157?ssPageName=...
...will do the job just as well.
I was looking at airbag suspension from a scrap Range Rover for this but these...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290737531157?ssPageName=...
...will do the job just as well.
So I've tried both keys for several minutes and the immobiliser is still non-compliant.
While I'm writing this the black key is in the ignition and the red master key is...
...in position. If that doesn't work I'll swear some more and get ready for work I guess.
I'm fairly sure this...
...in the engine bay diagnostic relay and nothing to do with the van not wanting to start.
This however...
...looks like it's supposed to be somewhere and could be another cause for the vans issues. There are no obvious places for it to go and all the engine bay photo's on Google are crap or taken at the wrong angle so I can't tell if there's anything missing.
Any ideas?
While I'm writing this the black key is in the ignition and the red master key is...
...in position. If that doesn't work I'll swear some more and get ready for work I guess.
I'm fairly sure this...
...in the engine bay diagnostic relay and nothing to do with the van not wanting to start.
This however...
...looks like it's supposed to be somewhere and could be another cause for the vans issues. There are no obvious places for it to go and all the engine bay photo's on Google are crap or taken at the wrong angle so I can't tell if there's anything missing.
Any ideas?
Going to need more of an idea than that, Ford love a 3 pin plug. Brake fluid reservoir? Looks too low for that. What engine is in it, can't you just google image the loom for it or even a diagram if your lucky. Don't know what that blue one is either, thought trannies had an OBD port in the fuse box.Google says if the blue one has 7 wires that are Black/green, Black/red, Purple/black, Black/white, purple/white, white/purple and black/blue then it is an aircon plug. I take it you no have the air conditioning
Have a look in the fuse box and there should be a spare fuse holder, if you pull that out there is an obd plug behind it. Dont think that it is of any use unless you have access to a Lucas computer though
Edited by s p a c e m a n on Friday 22 March 19:02
Get yourself onto Ford Transit.org, they will tell you how to bypass the pats system and get it going. No point clutching at straws on here, its a simple engine and worst case scenario it wil mean having the immobiliser removed from the ECU
If you have a solid red illuminated in the little dot the van has immobilised itself.
If you have a solid red illuminated in the little dot the van has immobilised itself.
I was looking forward to some vicarious enjoyment of autos
te transporter goodness.Never claimed to be a mechanic. I'm looking at £400-£500 to get the thing running before I even think about any bodywork restoration or bed fabrication. Doubling the budget with the risk of having to do it all over again if the battery runs flat.
Why are Transits so popular? The only other vehicle I can think of that writes itself off when the battery runs out is the Prius.
Why are Transits so popular? The only other vehicle I can think of that writes itself off when the battery runs out is the Prius.
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