Make HGVs and rigid lorries carry snowchains

Make HGVs and rigid lorries carry snowchains

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chilistrucker

4,541 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Hello from Denmark smile
I work for a uk firm, an d we have winter rated tyres on as they are a legal requirement in many places we visit!
We've spent the last 4 weeks in Finland, Sweden and Denmark, plenty of snow but on the whole have managed to get around reasonably well! They Are ok on the snow, but not much good on black ice as I found out!
Hit a long stretch of snow on the motorway last week in Denmark, at night, but managed a steady plod along at 40 mph without drama!
I'm not sure of the difference in cost for a set of winter rated tyres?
You have to remember that the worst temperatures for slippy conditions, ( I think) is minus six, too, plus six, very common in the uk, lower than minus six, it actually becomes less slippery, and we,ve mainly been driving at night out here, at around minus five, too, minus ten, hence the decent progress I guess!

abbotsmike

1,033 posts

146 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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XDA said:
No, trucks don't get held up in snow but they instead jackknife and block the whole road. Presumably due to some drivers believing they are invincible.
I think there is some mileage in the bold part. When it snowed down here the other week, all the real muppets stayed at home because the snow scared them. All the 4x4's drove around looking smug, because they could, I saw 2 or 3 'normal' cars, and myself on winters in a hatchback. The only road closure I encountered was because a lorry had got itself stranded across the road, completely blocking both directions. I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but I wasn't staying, so I turned around (on a fairly narrow country lane, so a stuck lorry would have struggled) and went the back way. I also saw several lorry drivers doing completely fine. Overall though, more stuck lorries than stuck cars...

pja

270 posts

226 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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I think the OP has been watching to much ice road truckers!

Anybody know where I can get a set of these "magic" snow chains? rolleyes


XDA

2,141 posts

186 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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abbotsmike said:
XDA said:
No, trucks don't get held up in snow but they instead jackknife and block the whole road. Presumably due to some drivers believing they are invincible.
I think there is some mileage in the bold part. When it snowed down here the other week, all the real muppets stayed at home because the snow scared them. All the 4x4's drove around looking smug, because they could, I saw 2 or 3 'normal' cars, and myself on winters in a hatchback. The only road closure I encountered was because a lorry had got itself stranded across the road, completely blocking both directions. I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but I wasn't staying, so I turned around (on a fairly narrow country lane, so a stuck lorry would have struggled) and went the back way. I also saw several lorry drivers doing completely fine. Overall though, more stuck lorries than stuck cars...
We had the very bad snowfall last week also. A number of jackknifed HGV's blocked up the roads when there were very few cars on the roads. scratchchin

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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XDA said:
abbotsmike said:
XDA said:
No, trucks don't get held up in snow but they instead jackknife and block the whole road. Presumably due to some drivers believing they are invincible.
I think there is some mileage in the bold part. When it snowed down here the other week, all the real muppets stayed at home because the snow scared them. All the 4x4's drove around looking smug, because they could, I saw 2 or 3 'normal' cars, and myself on winters in a hatchback. The only road closure I encountered was because a lorry had got itself stranded across the road, completely blocking both directions. I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but I wasn't staying, so I turned around (on a fairly narrow country lane, so a stuck lorry would have struggled) and went the back way. I also saw several lorry drivers doing completely fine. Overall though, more stuck lorries than stuck cars...
We had the very bad snowfall last week also. A number of jackknifed HGV's blocked up the roads when there were very few cars on the roads. scratchchin
Is it down to HGV drivers thinking they're 'invincible', or employers/clients demanding they still deliver?

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Where articulated goods vehicles become stuck, tyre chains will hardly ever help. The problem isnt caused by a lack of grip so much as a lack of contact.

Tunku

Original Poster:

7,703 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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pja said:
I think the OP has been watching to much ice road truckers!

Anybody know where I can get a set of these "magic" snow chains? rolleyes
rolleyes They are not magic. Europeans use them.

pja

270 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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Tunku said:
rolleyes They are not magic. Europeans use them.
Do they really rolleyes

Snow chains on a loaded artic with single drive axle (which most are) will not stop a jack knife & do jack st on a snow covered gradiant
Been there, tried them, bought the T-shirt!

XDA

2,141 posts

186 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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xRIEx said:
XDA said:
abbotsmike said:
XDA said:
No, trucks don't get held up in snow but they instead jackknife and block the whole road. Presumably due to some drivers believing they are invincible.
I think there is some mileage in the bold part. When it snowed down here the other week, all the real muppets stayed at home because the snow scared them. All the 4x4's drove around looking smug, because they could, I saw 2 or 3 'normal' cars, and myself on winters in a hatchback. The only road closure I encountered was because a lorry had got itself stranded across the road, completely blocking both directions. I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but I wasn't staying, so I turned around (on a fairly narrow country lane, so a stuck lorry would have struggled) and went the back way. I also saw several lorry drivers doing completely fine. Overall though, more stuck lorries than stuck cars...
We had the very bad snowfall last week also. A number of jackknifed HGV's blocked up the roads when there were very few cars on the roads. scratchchin
Is it down to HGV drivers thinking they're 'invincible', or employers/clients demanding they still deliver?
Both.

The police in the areas concerned did say not to travel unless "absolutely necessary"...