Lorry tests now to be done loaded.

Lorry tests now to be done loaded.

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vit4

3,507 posts

171 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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R0G said:
do it in 2014 and it should do
That's nuts. Still, suits me smile

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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The problem at the moment is that the upgrade from auto to manual is still in the proposal stage and not yet made law so until it is actually law there is no definitive answer

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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chilistrucker said:
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Wish it had been the same when I was learning. I passed in a little ford cargo, with a straight 6 box and tiny 30 ft flatbed trailer.
1st artic I drive in my own was an f plate m a n with the eaton twin splitter, pulling a 45ft curtain side trailer loaded with 26 pallets of newspapers.
That was a learning curve :0
I chose to train hard and fight easy. Most people opted for the little ex-army 10 tonne puddle jumpers with a straight six, but I chose the 18 tonne MAN with a manual four over four.

Its still an eye opener when your 6 tonne lorry have twice its own weight dropped on its back though! Ive seen people pass in similarly small vehicles and then get a job driving 32t aggregate tippers! You certainly keep out of their way for a week or two. Quarries wont usually let an inexperienced (with tarmac) driver carry coated stone, but a novice tipping 20t of Type1 can wreak havoc!

cossy400

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3,165 posts

185 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Spoke to one of our lads whose doing his class 2 training this week, half way thru day one instructor had agreed to go and get his load on ready for the new rules etc.

He said it had only got 3 ton on its back and didn't feel much different. (still setting off in 3rd etc)

But he did say he d had fun with the box because he kept forgettin which way the switch was for low and high and getting it the wrong way round a few times and playing some tunes on the old bus. hehe

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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cossy400 said:
Spoke to one of our lads whose doing his class 2 training this week, half way thru day one instructor had agreed to go and get his load on ready for the new rules etc.

He said it had only got 3 ton on its back and didn't feel much different. (still setting off in 3rd etc)

But he did say he d had fun with the box because he kept forgettin which way the switch was for low and high and getting it the wrong way round a few times and playing some tunes on the old bus. hehe
Me must have meant 5 tonnes in the back cos that is the minimum

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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You dont really know that thats there, even on an 18t vehicle.

cossy400

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3,165 posts

185 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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R0G said:
cossy400 said:
Spoke to one of our lads whose doing his class 2 training this week, half way thru day one instructor had agreed to go and get his load on ready for the new rules etc.

He said it had only got 3 ton on its back and didn't feel much different. (still setting off in 3rd etc)

But he did say he d had fun with the box because he kept forgettin which way the switch was for low and high and getting it the wrong way round a few times and playing some tunes on the old bus. hehe
Me must have meant 5 tonnes in the back cos that is the minimum
Will double check with him, but sure he said 3 ton.

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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cossy400 said:
Will double check with him, but sure he said 3 ton.
5 x 1,000 litre IBCs (lorry) and 3 x 1,000 litre IBCs (trailer)

handpaper

1,296 posts

204 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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R0G said:
Only if taken with a manual gearbox but from next year the test can be taken in an auto and the driver be given manual if they have B (car) manual
I was wondering when something like this would happen; manual units are getting rare and there's currently no auto LGV test (unlike PSV).

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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handpaper said:
I was wondering when something like this would happen; manual units are getting rare and there's currently no auto LGV test (unlike PSV).
There is currently an auto LGV test but training schools choose not to have auto trucks because the uptake would not be worth the outlay

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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I understand a manual HGV upgrading an automatic PSV, but letting people take their HGV test in an automatic and then letting them drive a manual four over four or Eaton twin split because they have a manual car licence is too much.

cossy400

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3,165 posts

185 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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R0G said:
cossy400 said:
Will double check with him, but sure he said 3 ton.
5 x 1,000 litre IBCs (lorry) and 3 x 1,000 litre IBCs (trailer)
Ive read the link so I know what should be on it.

I was simply stating what he d said.

I didn't need reminding.

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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GC8 said:
I understand a manual HGV upgrading an automatic PSV, but letting people take their HGV test in an automatic and then letting them drive a manual four over four or Eaton twin split because they have a manual car licence is too much.
I had more probs with learning all the different autos than getting to grips with another type of manual so I think your statement could be reversed - its probably 50/50 so passing in any type will require the driver to learn loads of different types after passing

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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You may well be right, as I havent ever driven any sort of auto, or even used a digital tacho, although I do have a card.