I respect your job, but come on guys, must you be so un-pro?

[johnS2000]

SidJames said:

You don't work in the business do you...

Not a chance .

I'd happily go back to the corner shop and get rid of the con merchant's that are supermarket's .

Like pretending to be eco compliant by bringing motorways to a stop by limiting trucks to 50 mph to make more profit for themselves and costing the general public thousands in wasted fuel .

[JagXJR]

EW109 said:

It has been 60 for cars towing trailers/ caravans on dual carriageways and motorways since 1986!

(For the true pedants, by reason of The Motor Vehicles (Variation of Speed Limits) Regulations 1986.)

Stand corrected, thank you. Seems I am living in the past.

They used to have a rule that it had to have a 50 sticker on otherwise it was 40, suppose that has changed too!

That is a maximum limit though so my comment that the OP is perfectly entitled to do 50 if he chooses is still valid.

[Humper]

As said, I too prefer someone doing 50 rather than the 56mph aholes who speed up every time you pass them. The op is entitled to drive at 50, overtaking is part of being a driver? Sadly there are pricks in lorries as well as cars, bikes, tractors, whatever.

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

spike50 said:

another flight of fantasy from ray luxury yacht !
fraid I don't believe most of what op posts , his world seems to be a lot different from mine , 25yrs driving but now living with mummy and a student ? how old are you ?

I'm 41.

And my Father died in 2005 at 64, from an aortic aneurysm.

I live with Mum because I can't afford to live alone - as said, I am a student Paramedic.

And neither can she, since my Father died so young. Also, she is now 80 years old and needs a bit of looking after too.

I hope that answers your questions.

[powerstroke]

johnS2000 said:

SidJames said:

You don't work in the business do you...

Not a chance .

I'd happily go back to the corner shop and get rid of the con merchant's that are supermarket's .

Like pretending to be eco compliant by bringing motorways to a stop by limiting trucks to 50 mph to make more profit for themselves and costing the general public thousands in wasted fuel .

Maybe they save a little fuel but it really needs a campaign
To shame them for clogging up the motorways
I blame bean counters they have fked up manufacturing industy
And now the roads. s !!'death to accountants

[JagXJR]

I blame Dr F-ing Beeching! tt!

[slippery]

Rather than allowing the tailgater to wind you up, just relax and revel in the fact that you are making his blood boil. An electric rear blind makes this even more fun, but I don't suppose your Octavia is equipped with that. Sorry to hear you've fallen on hard times, but at least you've found a good worthy career to move into.

[heebeegeetee]

I don't do so many long trips on mways anymore, but as I was reminded once again yesterday when I popped down to Ealing and back from Brum - what an absolte pain in the fking arse drivers not using/not having cruise control. Do any of these drivers realise what a pain in the arse they are? Do they not wonder why they keep being passed and re-passing the same vehicle?

What an absolute waste of lane space non-cc cars cause.

OP, are you on cruise when you're having your difficulties? If not, then this explains it to a tee. If you are using cruise then I'm sorry you're having this trouble and I have no explanation, but if you're traveling at hgv speeds but not using cruise, then trust me, you are seriously pissing people off out there.

[johnS2000]

While I agree with the comment's regarding cruise control I do not see the relevance with tailgating/overtaking truck's !

I have and would still do the "get behind a truck , put on cruise and relax " trick when in no hurry to be somewhere ( used to be Heathrow ) and would still get the odd truck try the overtake , get to a slight incline , lose speed and drop back , get the flashing light's despite still being behind a truck myself on cruise !

I believe all truck's should be fitted with re-active cruise control linked with GPS so that they all do the same speed ,cannot go faster than the truck in front and if they lose speed on incline's they are overloaded.

[jimbop1]

There really is no need to travel this slow on a motorway it's dangerous! Speed up to 60 it will not make a big difference or swap your car for a small diesel.

[jagracer]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

spike50 said:

another flight of fantasy from ray luxury yacht !
fraid I don't believe most of what op posts , his world seems to be a lot different from mine , 25yrs driving but now living with mummy and a student ? how old are you ?

I'm 41.

And my Father died in 2005 at 64, from an aortic aneurysm.

I live with Mum because I can't afford to live alone - as said, I am a student Paramedic.

And neither can she, since my Father died so young. Also, she is now 80 years old and needs a bit of looking after too.

I hope that answers your questions.

Spike, RLY's living and work situation is hardly any of your business and when my daughter was a med student there were a few other students in their 40s and 50s training to be doctors.
As to the original question, assuming the OP has not missed anything out then there's nothing wrong with him sitting at 50, far better than he be at 55 or 56 isn't it. The real problem is that like a lot of other motorists there are a lot of truck drivers that don't look further than a few feet in front of them or don't take in what is actually happening around them and this is what causes the problems not someone who wants to drive at the speed that quite a lot of trucks are limited to.

[jimbop1]

jagracer said:

pike, RLY's living and work situation is hardly any of your business and when my daughter was a med student there were a few other students in their 40s and 50s training to be doctors.
As to the original question, assuming the OP has not missed anything out then there's nothing wrong with him sitting at 50, far better than he be at 55 or 56 isn't it. The real problem is that like a lot of other motorists there are a lot of truck drivers that don't look further than a few feet in front of them or don't take in what is actually happening around them and this is what causes the problems not someone who wants to drive at the speed that quite a lot of trucks are limited to.

There is alot wrong with sitting at 50... It's dangerous! A lorry should never be catching a car up.

[Piersman2]

I spend 2-4 hours a day going up and down the M4.

It's busy, there's a lot of traffic trying to do the same. You can see that one of the main causes of congestion is where lorries are pulling into lane two and the traffic that was flowing passed them smoothly is suddenly disrupted and the 65mph'ers from lane two all move over to lane three to get round the lorry.

One thing that always amazes me is when I realise that the lorry has pulled out, not because they're overtaking another lorry, but some dick in a car going even slower than a lorry can.

I don't really care what the reason is, bad driver, economy run, just being a wker. It's just inconsiderate and unnecessary. Lorries take a long time to slow, and then accelerate again, They're not as easy to pull out and overtake as a car, they need a much larger gap to pull over into, this introdues stress into their lives. They spend all day on the roads with fixed deliveries etc... so I'm not suprised that occasionally you get some feedback from them. I've no doubt every single one of them must be thinking what an irritating prick you're being.

I don't believe the speed differential makes that great a difference to MPG but if you're convinced it does, get in lane 1, pick a lorry infront and just match his speed. That way you're not forming a rolling roadblock that impacts all users of the road and increases the potential for incidents and accidents for every minute you spend on the road.

[slippery]

Actually, thinking about this, would it not be better to sit in the slipstream of a 56MPH lorry if you want to save fuel? Win win.

[blueg33]

There are all sorts of reasons why a car may be doing 50mph on the mway, and it may not necessarily be through choice. The truck drivers don't know the reason, and someone driving at 50mph is not a valid reason to be an agressice dangerous tt, even more so when you are in charge of 40 tonnes of artic.

Sadly, in my experience, whilst there are very many good and professional truck drivers there seems to be an almost equal number of dheads driving trucks, I think the size high driving position
and relative invulnerability causes normally rational people to lose it.

[surveyor]

How very two faced...

Car drivers complain about operators limiting their speed to 50 mph, and are told that we can drive at whatever speed we want.

But yet the same does not apply to cars....

In my previous post I mentioned the space saver limiting me to 50. Unbelievably I came across a Yaris slower than me. As I passed in lane 2 (at a reasonable rate), the lorry behind was flashing his lights, sounding his horn, and I'm pretty sure trying to hook onto my towbar.

It's not the best way to get me out of his way.

There is no excuse for intimidation on today's roads, and it would be lovely for those that practice it, to be prosecuted and banned., or even just detracted by 100 hp. Won't happen, but one can dream.

[heebeegeetee]

blueg33 said:

There are all sorts of reasons why a car may be doing 50mph on the mway, and it may not necessarily be through choice.

I'm struggling to think of any, never mind many. There are not all sorts of reasons why a car may be doing 50mph on an nsl m'way.

Slow driving is bad driving. I agree with PM on the thread above, and for me it could be made illegal for a car to be overtaken by an hgv. HGVs should not be put into L2 by cars.

It's selfish to slow everyone else down for your needs. If there is something wrong with your car or you don't want to travel at m'way speeds, then just stay off the m'ways and leave the m'ways for those who want to use m'ways for their intended purpose.

Slow traffic can use the other roads and not impede so many people.

[surveyor]

heebeegeetee said:

I'm struggling to think of any, never mind many. There are not all sorts of reasons why a car may be doing 50mph on an nsl m'way.

Slow driving is bad driving. I agree with PM on the thread above, and for me it could be made illegal for a car to be overtaken by an hgv. HGVs should not be put into L2 by cars.

It's selfish to slow everyone else down for your needs. If there is something wrong with your car or you don't want to travel at m'way speeds, then just stay off the m'ways and leave the m'ways for those who want to use m'ways for their intended purpose.

Slow traffic can use the other roads and not impede so many people.

Spacesavers?

What about the Lorries limited to 52 mph?

[heebeegeetee]

surveyor said:

Spacesavers?

What about the Lorries limited to 52 mph?

Well there's one reason, which is not 'all sorts' But if there's somethung wrong with your car then get it off the m'way and use the ropads where 50mph won't be an issue.

As for lorries at 52mph, it should be able to remain in L1 unimpeded throughout it's entire m'way journey.

[scdan4]

slippery said:

Actually, thinking about this, would it not be better to sit in the slipstream of a 56MPH lorry if you want to save fuel? Win win.

This used to have a dramatic effect on fuel economy on my old hilux.

National express coaches running on time also used to be good (steady 60mph)

OP, try it - I think it really would work for what you are trying to do and stop the idiots sitting up your arse.