Chinese LDV vans in uk

[CraigyMc]

Justin S said:

... We have Euro 7 diesels and use 20 ltrs of blue every 3 to 4k miles, which with some guys is every month. .

There's a Euro 7? I thought the latest was Euro 6.

[CraigyMc]

MRPULLHARD said:

The importer is not big into marketing - I think they should be sponsoring the likes of football clubs and advertising in tabloid papers - to get the attention of white van man.

If the product was good enough they'd do a deal with a big fleet (like, a utility company, or a delivery outfit). If it's not, then they won't succeed no matter what price the vans are.

Signing up a single big customer would be advertising in itself.

[TooMany2cvs]

CraigyMc said:

There's a Euro 7? I thought the latest was Euro 6.

Euro 7 is likely to arrive around 2021, but isn't yet defined.

[Toaster Pilot]

CraigyMc said:

If the product was good enough they'd do a deal with a big fleet (like, a utility company, or a delivery outfit). If it's not, then they won't succeed no matter what price the vans are.

Signing up a single big customer would be advertising in itself.

It’s a rehashed Maxus, of course the product isn’t good enough

I don’t think any big fleets will want such a small dealer network etc

[Fast Bug]

It wasn't as good as the competition when it was launched first time round, no large fleet will buy it now

[anonymous-user]

As per my reply on page 1, this is why they won't ever sell -

Contract Hire with Maintenance

Deposit 1230.00 Plus VAT

36 x 410.00 Plus VAT

Mileage 20,000 Per Annum



I've been leasing VW T26 Transporters for £259 inc vat and maintenance with 15k mileage.

Edit - sorry, £259 +vat

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 18th January 16:05

[Mr2Mike]

Fast Bug said:

It wasn't as good as the competition when it was launched first time round, no large fleet will buy it now

Does "as good" include the significantly lower purchase price?

[pherlopolus]

Coin Slot. said:

As per my reply on page 1, this is why they won't ever sell -

Contract Hire with Maintenance

Deposit 1230.00 Plus VAT

36 x 410.00 Plus VAT

Mileage 20,000 Per Annum



I've been leasing VW T26 Transporters for £259 inc vat and maintenance with 15k mileage.

I thought that was for all 3

[Fast Bug]

Mr2Mike said:

Fast Bug said:

It wasn't as good as the competition when it was launched first time round, no large fleet will buy it now

Does "as good" include the significantly lower purchase price?

I worked for a Fiat and LDV dealership and I would show both to a customer with the Ducato £1000 more expensive. The Ducato was bigger, more comfortable, better built, used less fuel and had a better residual value. Most customers took the Ducato for the extra money, which was handy as with that cost difference we made an extra £500 a unit profit.

The Maxus was only cheap if you bought a pack deal of (usually overage) units. It was made of the thinnest steel out there and dented if you farted near it. It was so poorly built it was comical the state some of them were delivered to us in.

[Mr2Mike]

Fast Bug said:

I worked for a Fiat and LDV dealership and I would show both to a customer with the Ducato £1000 more expensive.

£1000 is nothing, not surprised people went for the more established brand. From the chap who bought one a few posts up it sounded like he'd nade a much larger saving.

[TooMany2cvs]

Mr2Mike said:

Fast Bug said:

I worked for a Fiat and LDV dealership and I would show both to a customer with the Ducato £1000 more expensive.

£1000 is nothing, not surprised people went for the more established brand. From the chap who bought one a few posts up it sounded like he'd nade a much larger saving.

I think FastBug was talking about last time round, when the Maxus was merely ste instead of resurrected revamped ste.

[Digga]

TooMany2cvs said:

Mr2Mike said:

Fast Bug said:

I worked for a Fiat and LDV dealership and I would show both to a customer with the Ducato £1000 more expensive.

£1000 is nothing, not surprised people went for the more established brand. From the chap who bought one a few posts up it sounded like he'd nade a much larger saving.

I think FastBug was talking about last time round, when the Maxus was merely ste instead of resurrected revamped ste.

Hey! Revamped ste using the name of previous revamped ste, LDV originally being, basically, British Leyland Sherpas.

[Fast Bug]

Mr2Mike said:

£1000 is nothing, not surprised people went for the more established brand. From the chap who bought one a few posts up it sounded like he'd nade a much larger saving.

The guy that paid £13500 for one?

Arnold Clark have lwb Vivaro for the same money, length wise it's a bit shorter and not as high but it'll have a value when it's 6 months old unlike the Maxus. Spend a bit more at £16500 gets a longer high roof Movano from Arnie. You'd probably find something cheaper elsewhere with more effort than my 2 minute Google

No worries about parts availability either as even if PSA decided to pull the plug on them, they're Renaults anyway. I know last time round LDV went pop and people were stuck for certain parts which effectively rendered their vans as scrap, or trying to find them in breakers yards to get the parts to keep them running

[TooMany2cvs]

Digga said:

Hey! Revamped ste using the name of previous revamped ste, LDV originally being, basically, British Leyland Sherpas.

Nah, the Maxus wasn't/isn't another Sherpa life-support machine - it was LDV/Direwoo fresh ste, jointly-developed back in the late 90s. It just didn't get launched until 2004, years after it was designed, because of Direwoo going tits in 2000 leaving LDV to stumble along with it alone.

[Digga]

TooMany2cvs said:

Digga said:

Hey! Revamped ste using the name of previous revamped ste, LDV originally being, basically, British Leyland Sherpas.

Nah, the Maxus wasn't/isn't another Sherpa life-support machine - it was LDV/Direwoo fresh ste, jointly-developed back in the late 90s. It just didn't get launched until 2004, years after it was designed, because of Direwoo going tits in 2000 leaving LDV to stumble along with it alone.

I realise, but the present LDV brand though, is one that itself was created to re-brand BL ste. We had an LDV 400 flat bed and, whilst it was inhumanly noisy, basic and slow, it was, to be fair, reliable and indestructible.

[TooMany2cvs]

Digga said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Digga said:

Hey! Revamped ste using the name of previous revamped ste, LDV originally being, basically, British Leyland Sherpas.

Nah, the Maxus wasn't/isn't another Sherpa life-support machine - it was LDV/Direwoo fresh ste, jointly-developed back in the late 90s. It just didn't get launched until 2004, years after it was designed, because of Direwoo going tits in 2000 leaving LDV to stumble along with it alone.

I realise, but the present LDV brand though, is one that itself was created to re-brand BL ste. We had an LDV 400 flat bed and, whilst it was inhumanly noisy, basic and slow, it was, to be fair, reliable and indestructible.

Ah, right. With you now. It was a bit more than just a rebrand - it was one part of the buyout of the mess of Leyland DAF when DAF went tits.

Remind me again why there's no British-owned motor industry any more? Oh, wait. I'm just sooo negative and unpatriotic, and there was nothing whatsoever wrong...

[Digga]

TooMany2cvs said:

Digga said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Digga said:

Hey! Revamped ste using the name of previous revamped ste, LDV originally being, basically, British Leyland Sherpas.

Nah, the Maxus wasn't/isn't another Sherpa life-support machine - it was LDV/Direwoo fresh ste, jointly-developed back in the late 90s. It just didn't get launched until 2004, years after it was designed, because of Direwoo going tits in 2000 leaving LDV to stumble along with it alone.

I realise, but the present LDV brand though, is one that itself was created to re-brand BL ste. We had an LDV 400 flat bed and, whilst it was inhumanly noisy, basic and slow, it was, to be fair, reliable and indestructible.

Ah, right. With you now. It was a bit more than just a rebrand - it was one part of the buyout of the mess of Leyland DAF when DAF went tits.

Remind me again why there's no British-owned motor industry any more? Oh, wait. I'm just sooo negative and unpatriotic, and there was nothing whatsoever wrong...

Bad unions. Bad management. No co-operation or long term thinking.

[anonymous-user]

We ran 10 or so Convoys on our fleet a few years back, the older ones with the Transit banana engines were okish, then some of them had Peugeot engines and I think in the end they went back to Transit engines that had ecu's and were difficult to fix once LDV went tits up.

Who in their right mind would pay more for a 'new' LDV on lease rather than a Tranny or VW? I know you could buy them rather than lease, but lease suits most people and businesses these days.

[Digga]

Coin Slot. said:

then some of them had Peugeot engines

Our LDV 400 had a Peugeot engine. It sounded wky as a bag of broken spanners, but was bulletproof. I cannot fault the lump; it must have been conceived by a part of the PSA empire that had it's roots in the venerable Peugeot 504.

[MRPULLHARD]

Guys please remember while it looks like a Maxus , I think its been re- engineered . so any comparision to one is incorrect.