Ban Elephant Racing

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Dynamic Space Wizard

928 posts

104 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Tango13 said:
ApOrbital said:
Did someone on here years ago ask if he could import elephants to the uk?
The OP wanted a domesticated elephant, not just some wild, fresh off the plains elephant laugh

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=44...
Well he should go to a pet shop then.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Mercky said:
What is?
Black_S3 said:
One of the few sensible traffic laws we have is HGVs 58 while cars can do 70 imo.
I took that as Ddc or motorway. You can look yourself...i quoted it.

eldar

21,752 posts

196 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Six Figs said:
it's 60mph
90kmph, all metric, so 56mph I think.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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eldar said:
90kmph, all metric, so 56mph I think.
nope it is in public domain.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Companies limit trucks as 56mph is deemed maximum mpg speed.


In theory trucks could get away with 65mph if you take the plus 10% rule.


Edited by Six Figs on Monday 5th February 22:20

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Black_S3 said:
Willy Nilly said:
The issue in the UK and Europe is the speed limiters. However as we know, speed kills, which is why there have been no recorded accidents involving speed limited trucks since they introduced.
One of the few sensible traffic laws we have is HGVs 58 while cars can do 70 imo.
I put it to you that most of the problems on dual carriageways and motorways have speed limited trucks as the catalyst.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Six Figs said:
nope it is in public domain.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Companies limit trucks as 56mph is deemed maximum mpg speed.


In theory trucks could get away with 65mph if you take the plus 10% rule.


Edited by Six Figs on Monday 5th February 22:20
No they don't, they are limited to a maximum 56mph under European law, this is despite the actual speed limit on Dc's and Motorways being 60mph. Companies can limit them to whatever they like, as low as 50mph in some cases.

ApOrbital

9,962 posts

118 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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mybrainhurts said:
ApOrbital said:
Did someone on here years ago ask if he could import elephants to the uk?
Yes. He imported three.

One rogered him with its trunk.

One trampled him to death.

One crapped on his corpse.

On the bright side, he didn't need a grave.
laugh

revvingit

Original Poster:

444 posts

80 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Six Figs said:
nope it is in public domain.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Companies limit trucks as 56mph is deemed maximum mpg speed.


In theory trucks could get away with 65mph if you take the plus 10% rule.


Edited by Six Figs on Monday 5th February 22:20
EU law - which we still have to follow much to the annoyance of NP&E - limits trucks to 56mph. So that's what trucks are limited to. It'd be interesting to see if trucks that are only used in UK runs are limited to 60mph in future or keep the 56mph limit and whether upping the limit to 60mph could see more elephant racing as UK trucks attempt to overtake EU trucks?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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revvingit said:
Six Figs said:
nope it is in public domain.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Companies limit trucks as 56mph is deemed maximum mpg speed.


In theory trucks could get away with 65mph if you take the plus 10% rule.


Edited by Six Figs on Monday 5th February 22:20
EU law - which we still have to follow much to the annoyance of NP&E - limits trucks to 56mph. So that's what trucks are limited to. It'd be interesting to see if trucks that are only used in UK runs are limited to 60mph in future or keep the 56mph limit and whether upping the limit to 60mph could see more elephant racing as UK trucks attempt to overtake EU trucks?
It would be good if post brexit we allow the limiters to be set at 62 mph and the limit at 60 could be enforced via tachograph records alowing for short periods of overspeed to allow safer and less congestion causing overtakes ??


SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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revvingit said:
Why is elephant racing not illegal?

It basically deliberately causing a hold-up on a motorway for absolutely no good reason, It should be 6 points and a 350 pound fine to the driver for any lorry that doesn't use lane 1
You fking retard

revvingit

Original Poster:

444 posts

80 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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SVTRick said:
You fking retard
Thanks for your thoughtful and consider response.

Digby

8,239 posts

246 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Spend a day with any truck driver and you soon come to realise it's cars they overtake most of the time, not other trucks. Perhaps elephant racing is their way of making a point...

Not that it ever bothers me, anyway.

cossy400

3,161 posts

184 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Simply put OP stop buying stuff, then they ll not be so many on the road?

Or ask yourself this whats the one thing in the whole wide world that doesn't get delivered by a truck at some point?

As every thing else that you can see around you does bar this one thing.

I drive one and believe me theirs nothing worse than pulling out to overtake and them "finding another gear" or not being arsed to drop it back a couple of clicks for 30 seconds.

However as has been stated car drivers are not much better, twice today I was gaining,gaining and pulled out half way upside of the car and they pull away, for me again to catch them and they do exactly the same.

IMO every car driver should have go out in a lorry for the day, then you d see the st we have put up with.

But that's life and that's the job we chose to do.

InitialDave

11,902 posts

119 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I propose that trucks be fitted with a KERS device, which they're allowed to activate once a day, that works for a period of a few minutes and also both removes the speed limiter and plays Kickstart My Heart at max volume.

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I don't think banning elephant racing would be practical to enforce. There would need to be some sort of minimum speed differential otherwise all of lane 1 would be sat behind a mobile crane or STGO rig doing 20mph,also you are completely discounting the fact that most truck drivers don't decide to pass for 'no reason', an 8 hour shift at 56 vs an 8 hour shift at 51 can easily be the difference between you making it to your hub and needing to spend the night in the cab.

However I do think banning supermarkets limiting their trucks to 80kph(50mph) and specing trucks well below 10hp/ton would do our roads a world of good.

PurpleTurtle

6,990 posts

144 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Frustrating as it can be, I’m sure those foaming at the mouth about being stuck behind a truck for a while are also prodigious consumers of the goods transported by said HGVs.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Make it mandatory that the marginally slower truck - the one that is being overtaken - should slow down further to allow the overtaking truck to complete its overtake and pull back in and away.

The frustrating part is when the slower truck speeds up to prolong the overtake. Increasing speed whilst being overtaken should be illegal.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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InitialDave said:
I propose that trucks be fitted with a KERS device, which they're allowed to activate once a day, that works for a period of a few minutes and also both removes the speed limiter and plays Kickstart My Heart at max volume.
I just fired this track up for the first time - I am now loving the idea of a massive truck hitting some kind of "turbo" button and charging along to this!

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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In reply to the OP; truck driving can be a tough job with a lot of time pressure. So they need to run as fast as they can all the time they can. Imagine your truck is limited to 56mph and the truck in front is limited at 53mph; you would have to overtake and it would take a while. Its just the nature of the situation - let it go basically.

In the words of Kiss FM on distant day when I drove a white van for a living- "Big up, big up, the delivery men!". Without them the economy would stop in about 5 mins flat.

InitialDave

11,902 posts

119 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I just fired this track up for the first time - I am now loving the idea of a massive truck hitting some kind of "turbo" button and charging along to this!
Someone made a music video using movie car chases: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZk_i6fWn94&