HGV Class 1 Driver Wages ?

HGV Class 1 Driver Wages ?

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One Amp Andy

1,462 posts

190 months

Friday 19th June 2020
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Venisonpie said:
That and the 22hr day they're asking for.
Taking advantage of the 'relaxed' coronavirus hours rules there smile .

Glenn63

2,759 posts

84 months

Friday 19th June 2020
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If that’s actually 4pm-2am mon-fri could be a very cushty number for that wage.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Decky_Q said:
http://surefreight.co.uk/careers/3130293

This is the firm I work for and they are looking drivers in the north west, based in Heysham and most loads are pick up along m6 and drop at Heysham docks, decent facilities in their depot and bar about a dozen scania highlines the rest of the 200 odd fleet is under 3years old and nicely specced.
Hi Decky, do you know if they're looking at Bradford depot? I'm on bulk and farm milk tankers at the moment out of Lancs but looking for something local, ideally 4o4o. Is Bradford depot the one off Canal Rd? Don't want to be going over the water. Odd night out OK, or longer/outbased if shower facilities are available on site. Won't do tramping if relying on MSAs. What are their rates? smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
Won't do tramping if relying on MSAs. What are their rates? smile
Interesting point.
Who do you think you should rely on?
What should they charge?
What should they provide?
And most importantly do you think it should all be free? smile
If not, why not as that is the general driver/haulage industry (but not the hospitality industry) consensus.

fttm

3,686 posts

135 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Glenn63 said:
If that’s actually 4pm-2am mon-fri could be a very cushty number for that wage.

Chances are that 4pm-2am is the start time window ,can't see 45k for a 50hr week somehow in the UK .

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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speedyguy said:
Lemming Train said:
Won't do tramping if relying on MSAs. What are their rates? smile
Interesting point.
Who do you think you should rely on?
What should they charge?
What should they provide?
And most importantly do you think it should all be free? smile
If not, why not as that is the general driver/haulage industry (but not the hospitality industry) consensus.
I'm not sure what relevance this has to the thread. Maybe you should start a separate thread if you wish to discuss MSA facilities.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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fttm said:
Glenn63 said:
If that’s actually 4pm-2am mon-fri could be a very cushty number for that wage.

Chances are that 4pm-2am is the start time window ,can't see 45k for a 50hr week somehow in the UK .
Indeed. No-one is on £17.31 an hour for driving a truck in the UK unless those 50 hours are somehow all being squeezed into Saturdays and Sundays.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
I'm not sure what relevance this has to the thread. Maybe you should start a separate thread if you wish to discuss MSA facilities.
Sorry you brought MSA's and facilities into it.

Some drivers use night out money to inflate their take home pay/rate. So I thought it may be relevant.
As you were. Don't answer the question. thumbup

Darkslider

3,073 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
Indeed. No-one is on £17.31 an hour for driving a truck in the UK unless those 50 hours are somehow all being squeezed into Saturdays and Sundays.
Probably easy to hit as an owner operator though? I know a couple of guys who own their own tippers and drive for Tarmac, they seem to be doing pretty well even after repayments on a £100k worth of truck.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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speedyguy said:
Sorry you brought MSA's and facilities into it.

Some drivers use night out money to inflate their take home pay/rate. So I thought it may be relevant.
As you were. Don't answer the question. thumbup
MSA shower facilities are closed at most places. I'm not doing overnights without access to wash/shower facilities. Some companies provide them at their own depots, some don't.

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

73 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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speedyguy said:
Some drivers use night out money to inflate their take home pay/rate. So I thought it may be relevant.
Hardly a surprise when the majority earn pittance.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Darkslider said:
Lemming Train said:
Indeed. No-one is on £17.31 an hour for driving a truck in the UK unless those 50 hours are somehow all being squeezed into Saturdays and Sundays.
Probably easy to hit as an owner operator though? I know a couple of guys who own their own tippers and drive for Tarmac, they seem to be doing pretty well even after repayments on a £100k worth of truck.
That's like comparing apples to oranges.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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LetsTryAgain : I know of upcoming class 1 and class 2 work in Rochdale if you're interested. I don't know where in "NW" you are. Preferably with food grade tanker and farm experience but can train someone with the right mindset. Very relaxed and laid back work. Current and ex-tipper driver foot-to-the-floor-everywhere types need not apply. No newbies as we do a lot of very tight spots.

LetsTryAgain

2,904 posts

73 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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I'm about 2 hours north of Rochdale! Haha. Thanks for the tip though.
I'm basically Scotland.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
I'm about 2 hours north of Rochdale! Haha. Thanks for the tip though.
I'm basically Scotland.
OK. I think red_slr is based somewhere near the border? Maybe he has something?

leggly

1,787 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
Indeed. No-one is on £17.31 an hour for driving a truck in the UK unless those 50 hours are somehow all being squeezed into Saturdays and Sundays.
When I left Royal Mail two years ago I was on over £18 an hour.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Hourly rate not job and knock. Having worked for RM at Wakefield hub I'd say you need to try harder if £18 is the best you can do. laugh

As a side note, it's worth the newbies here noting that drivers bragging about how much they ('re/claim to be) earning is their number one forté and can be heard in haulage yards, RDCs and internet forums up and down the land. 99% of the time the figures claimed are BS and/or include night out money, meal allowance, shift allowance, fuel bonus, attendance allowance, company pension top up and the 10 hours overtime that accounts dept missed off their previous week's pay packet and the £20 that their mate owed them rolleyes .

Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 21st June 19:09

leggly

1,787 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
Hourly rate not job and knock. Having worked for RM at Wakefield hub I'd say you need to try harder if £18 is the best you can do. laugh

As a side note, it's worth the newbies here noting that drivers bragging about how much they ('re/claim to be) earning is their number one forté and can be heard in haulage yards, RDCs and internet forums up and down the land. 99% of the time the figures claimed are BS and/or include night out money, meal allowance, shift allowance, fuel bonus, attendance allowance, company pension top up and the 10 hours overtime that accounts dept missed off their previous week's pay packet and the £20 that their mate owed them rolleyes .

Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 21st June 19:09
Hourly rate sunshine, job and knock ended years ago at Royal Mail.

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Lemming Train said:
LetsTryAgain said:
I'm about 2 hours north of Rochdale! Haha. Thanks for the tip though.
I'm basically Scotland.
OK. I think red_slr is based somewhere near the border? Maybe he has something?
Sorry inside the m60 pal.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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In a passed life I used to secdual and employ all of the agency drivers for Royal mail crick (some of you will work out from that who I used to work for) £18 an hour was easily achieved going up to £20 per hour plus for weekends, nights and Bank Holidays.

We had guys working three or four days weeks by choice who would not do any extra hours and some guys who worked six months of the year spending the other six months out in Thailand or the Philippines catching unsavoury sti, s the other six months.

I would have thought the rates have changed somewhat now as I believe the agency supply contract has changed.