Winter tyres for motorhome

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PVCGriff

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101 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Sorry if this is a tired (sic) subject but I am need up-to-date advice. I have an Adria Matrix motorhome with max weight 3800kg. I intend to go skiing in the new year for an extended period.
Has anybody any advice regarding suitable winter tyres (225 75 16R).

Stewss4

51 posts

102 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Michelin agilis cross climate.

Spuffington

1,206 posts

169 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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I’ve been been running Michelin Agilis Alpin on my 6t Concorde all year round and they’ve proven a great tyre also in very warm weather. I purposely chose to run Winters rather than all seasons since I also intend to take mine skiing in the alps and there can be no compromises in those conditions IMO.

PVCGriff

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101 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Thanks very much for the advice, guys.
So, Spuffington, you reckon I could run Alpins all year round? I could then sell my almost-new Agilis Campings and save having to store them.
Any idea where would be the best place to sell nearly-new tyres?

Spuffington

1,206 posts

169 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Yes, I’d run them all year round. The only reason not to is that winters wear slightly more during warmer temps but given that most motorhomes require their tyres changing on a life-expiry basis rather than when they’re fully worn, I have no problem with increased wear. It’s unlikely mine will see more than 5k pa for the next 5yrs before changing which means there’ll be plenty of tread left when they’re too old to continue using even accounting for increased summer wear rates.


PVCGriff

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101 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Thanks again. Any opinion on best snow chains?

smifffymoto

4,567 posts

206 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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If you have good winter tyres you don’t need chains.

youngricharduk

235 posts

86 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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smifffymoto said:
If you have good winter tyres you don’t need chains.
Snow chains are compulsory in some parts of Europe

Thurbs

2,780 posts

223 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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The Alpine's look great but £135 a corner for the sprinter (and I need 6).

I was going to go with Toyo H 09 which have a 113 load rating and quite a bit cheaper.

I leave boxing day so as per the OP, nothing like lastminute.com.

smifffymoto

4,567 posts

206 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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youngricharduk said:
smifffymoto said:
If you have good winter tyres you don’t need chains.
Snow chains are compulsory in some parts of Europe
Where are they compulsory?
Usually it’s tyres or chains.Tyres must carry a snowflake marking not just m&s.
As the motorhome is over 3500kg,are the rules the same?

Edited by smifffymoto on Monday 17th December 12:29

Squiggs

1,520 posts

156 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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http://www.the-ski-guru.com/2018/09/29/winter-tyre...

Info on where snow chains are mandatory.

agent006

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265 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Thurbs said:
I was going to go with Toyo H 09 which have a 113 load rating and quite a bit cheaper.
We had Toyo H08 on the Hymer when we bought it. Albeit they're not winter tyres but they ride very well and have lasted well too.

PVCGriff

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101 posts

215 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Thanks again for all the advice. I've bought snow chains and think I'll fit Michelin Agilis Cross Climates too. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Spuffington

1,206 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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You definitely need snow chains in mountainous regions - there are frequently road blocks and if you fail to have them on, you will simply not be allowed past. Snow socks are also no substitute. There are heavy fines for those people who either cause accidents or obstructions due to improper equipment and lack of snow chains.

M&S tyres are also not suitable in many areas and you are required to have snowflake or mountain symbol on the tyres.

I am about to get a set of snow chains for my Concorde for the Alps in February.

PVCGriff

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101 posts

215 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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I have been told that Michelin Agilis Cross Climates carry the snowflake/three peaks mark as being suitable for snow. Is that not correct?

Spuffington

1,206 posts

169 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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PVCGriff said:
I have been told that Michelin Agilis Cross Climates carry the snowflake/three peaks mark as being suitable for snow. Is that not correct?
I believe that's the case.

I just personally prefer to run winters all year round rather than mixed compounds. I'm facing the same dilemma at the moment with my Macan and trying to work out whether to go full on winters on separate rims or Pirelli all-seasons which are the only N-rated tyres. I prefer the full winter tyre because as good as all seasons are, they're never better than the full on winter compound/tread.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Friday 4th January 2019
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From what I have been told, If made and fitted before the end of 2017 (date stamp on tyres) then M&S is ok until 2020.

If fitted after 2017 the. You need the three mountain peaks / snowflake on them.

We are ok as our where fitted new on registration (2017) have plenty of tread (4mm min) and are M&S rated.

V.