Bus to camper questions

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AdeTuono

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7,254 posts

227 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I know, I know, I should have thought about this before trawling eBay, but you know how it is. Must remember to turn the PC off after a few beers in future...

Anyway, I have become the owner of an International School bus, direct from the US. I mentioned it in the 'Frivolous Purchases' thread a few weeks ago. Well, things have got real, and it arrived today. I've had a bit of time to contemplate what I've done, and have pretty much decided on a plan of action. Well, in truth, I only made my mind up an hour ago when it arrived, and I'm now fired with enthusiasm for my new purchase.

Ultimately, it will be used as an Air B'n'B, but with an eye to the future (when I decide to sell it), and that fact that it covered the 300-odd miles from Southampton port to home effortlessly, I feel I should at least register it for the road, and possibly use it a little bit over the summer.

I've read up on the legislation, and am aware that I'll need cooking facilities, water storage, a bed and a dining area in order to comply with the motorhome classification. So, any tips and tricks, and anything else I need to be aware of? Any links to insurers? I'm used to insuring oddball vehicles; this is joining a fleet of unconventional cars, but I'm in the dark when it comes to this class of transport.

I've also registered a couple of US-sourced hot-rods over here; is this likely to be any different?

Lastly, any links to resources, or blogs by anyone else who has been stupid enough to undertake this plan of action?

Thanks in advance; photo, or it hasn't happened!




rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Hah, that's fantastic. It's going to be hard to keep warm with all that glass! Look forward to seeing what you turn it into.

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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This is the most amazing thing, how much does it cost to get an old school bus speed, did you use RoRo, and what were the legalities of driving it up the road?

dundarach

5,033 posts

228 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Bravo..!!!

Bravo......!!!!

Well done that man, excellent, please keep us updated

https://tinyhouseblog.com/yourstory/school-bus-rv-...

Lots of wood and a log burner smile

Balmoral

40,897 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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AdeTuono said:
I've read up on the legislation, and am aware that I'll need cooking facilities, water storage, a bed and a dining area in order to comply with the motorhome classification. So, any tips and tricks, and anything else I need to be aware of?
I converted a minibus to a camper and getting the classification changed to Motor Caravan was an absolute doddle. There are other benefits too, for me, the MOT class went from a 7 to a 4, and booking it onto the channel tunnel/ferries with the reg number now brings up the correct vehicle description, which was always wrong previously and created a situation that redirected me to the freight site, Insurance is also easier for the same reasons. However I thought the classification change was for vans/minibuses and other light vehicle conversions? I'm not so sure an HGV or PSV as a base vehicle is quite the same? although the guidelines make no specific mention of it.


Edited by Balmoral on Thursday 10th January 15:39

GAjon

3,734 posts

213 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Here’s a documentary on the subject.


biggiles

1,711 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Log burner is a great idea!

You'll want a proper heater as well. For a van-size vehicle, it's about 1-2k for an Eberspacher/Webasto which takes diesel (very efficiently) from the tank. AKA parking heaters for lorries.

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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I saw this on the Yank cars thread, that sounds like a great plan, there's no weight limit for motorhomes/RVs, the only issue could be your licence, if it's over 7.5 tonnes you need a C licence, under that it's C1 which you probably already have under grandfather's rights if you passed your test pre '95 (iirc).
You're correct in your understanding of what it needs to be classed as a motorhome although I know that a couple of people have been "knocked back" by DVLA & have had to have their own rules spelt out to them.
Good luck with it !

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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BTW, if you want a corner sofa with fold out bed (no mattress unfortunately it kept deflating!) I'm taking the one out of my 5th wheel at the end of the month, changing it for a recliner.

AdeTuono

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7,254 posts

227 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Thanks for the replies and info.

To answer a couple of questions; it arrived here on this...



...and was driven to me by the guy I bought it from, on trade plates, direct from Southampton. It drove superbly, and averaged around 20mpg, which I think is remarkable.

It actually weights over 13 tonnes, which presents a problem, as, has been mentioned, it requires a Cat C qualification on your licence. Which I don't have. My fault; I should have done more background checks before being let loose on eBay.

That does throw a different light on where I go with it in the future. I'll still register it for the road, if only to make it easier if & when I come to sell it. For the immediate future, I'll convert to a motorhome, and then use it for Air B'n'B when we set up our glamping business. I'll just need to have someone drive it there for me. Either that, or take my Class C licence.

Lastly, thanks for the offer of the sofa Rob. Not sure how to configure yet, so I'll bear your offer in mind.

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

171 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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It's free & if it doesn't have a new home it will be going to the tip. I'll take a pic tomorrow.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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I've heard that some insurance companies do not like log-burners in Motorhomes, so might be worth investigating...

ColinM50

2,631 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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Oooh I can just hear the phone conversation. "PH caravan site reservations here, can you tell me how long your motorhome is and it's weight please sir"

AdeTuono

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227 months

Friday 18th January 2019
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There is. Sadly, it's 30 years. I can't really wait for another 16 years for it to qualify; I'll probably be dead by then. smile

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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If you need it moving at some point and you’re stuck, give me a shout I’ve got a C+E and am near bury fairly often.

AdeTuono

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Saturday 19th January 2019
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Silent1 said:
If you need it moving at some point and you’re stuck, give me a shout I’ve got a C+E and am near bury fairly often.
That's really good of you. Sadly, I'm in Norfolk! But many thanks... thumbup

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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AdeTuono said:
That's really good of you. Sadly, I'm in Norfolk! But many thanks... thumbup
hehe in the summer I’ll be all over Norfolk, mostly dealing with silage 👍

geeks

9,184 posts

139 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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Would love to help with this having seen it in the frivolous thread.

Can you chuck up some dimensions (interior and exterior) to give us something to go off.

AdeTuono

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227 months

Saturday 19th January 2019
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geeks said:
Would love to help with this having seen it in the frivolous thread.

Can you chuck up some dimensions (interior and exterior) to give us something to go off.
The whole bus is a little shy of 40' long., and about 8 1/2' wide. Couple of pics below, one as it arrived and one as it is now. I had to grind off every bolt holding the seats to the floor due to corrosion underneath. Fortunately, the chassis is sound. The seats are proving popular and have sold over half of them already.





Next job is to batten, insulate and clad the floor front to back.

RC1807

12,532 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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I saw and commented on this in the Frivolous thread. You're clearly mad, OP, for the lack of checks beforehand, but I think this can be a cracking build .... especially after having just watched George's Amazing Spaces and the American caravan build.

This bus has TONS of space, and having a Class C licence can't be that bad to have, can it? wink