Elddis or Auto trail
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Laurel Green said:
I've heard that some companies state a 10% (of maximum) carriage of water when travelling so as to keep the weight within the weight limit.
Well, unless you're not going far, then it's a bit daft to fill your tank up before you go. 1 litre is 1kg don't forget. I normally travel with about 25 litres in (25% on my gauge). BishBosh said:
For reference its this model... Ixeo TL 680G. https://www.buerstner.com/uk/motorhomes/ixeo-tl/
The website says that van has a max weight of 4,250kg with a payload of over 900kg - thats a lot of wine !Edited by BishBosh on Tuesday 11th February 14:02
BishBosh said:
chopper602 said:
and this is why the available payload is SO important.
You can get a 3.5t van 'up-plated' another 2-300kg and it is often just a paperwork exercise, but of course you need the C1 licence (and undergo a medical at age 70 when you renew your licence). There are quite a few new models coming onto the UK market that are above 3.5t - new 2020 Burstner Lyseo (or similar!) is 3880kg and I *think* the new VW Crafter based vans are over too.
Of course you could take a C1 test to add it to your licence, but I've no idea what this entails.
Yep.. mine is up plated to 3880kg and I’m old enough to have a C1 license. There’s a whole lot of stuff online about how poor the payload is for a 3.5t van with manufacturers being allowed in the region of 5% variation on their stated weights. You can get a 3.5t van 'up-plated' another 2-300kg and it is often just a paperwork exercise, but of course you need the C1 licence (and undergo a medical at age 70 when you renew your licence). There are quite a few new models coming onto the UK market that are above 3.5t - new 2020 Burstner Lyseo (or similar!) is 3880kg and I *think* the new VW Crafter based vans are over too.
Of course you could take a C1 test to add it to your licence, but I've no idea what this entails.
Eg. If your van is 3200kg giving a 300kg payload 160kg could be wiped out just on the van being a bit heavier than stated (this is where weigh bridges become necessary when buying) put a few home comforts into the van a bike and barbecue etc...you’ll soon be at the payload limits.
It was 3.5t .. I didn’t fully load it and thought it was absolutely fine .. however, it was weighed at the ferry port at 4.2t with me and my mate aboard ... oops
And there was me thinking I could have got loads more in
It’s really something to watch ...payload is used up very quickly
chopper602 said:
Laurel Green said:
I've heard that some companies state a 10% (of maximum) carriage of water when travelling so as to keep the weight within the weight limit.
Well, unless you're not going far, then it's a bit daft to fill your tank up before you go. 1 litre is 1kg don't forget. I normally travel with about 25 litres in (25% on my gauge). 
Thanks for all the replies I'm still looking at various makes the latest is Bailey they seem quite good and not to badly put together been offered a good trade in price for my caravan but the motor home is still a bit more than I'm budgeting, I was looking at the alliance silver edition but got offered the autograph. I did look at the German vans but I wasn't that keen, I think its another trip to this month's show in Birmingham to have another look around.
We've gone for an Autotrail.
Our criteria was a island bed, good seating area and we didnt need more than two travel seats.
We looked at the A class but they all seem to have the drop down bed above drivers seat, which to us is a total waste of space and headroom.
Previously owned a Autotrail, also a Swift. Autotrail seemed to be the better built from our opinion.
Our criteria was a island bed, good seating area and we didnt need more than two travel seats.
We looked at the A class but they all seem to have the drop down bed above drivers seat, which to us is a total waste of space and headroom.
Previously owned a Autotrail, also a Swift. Autotrail seemed to be the better built from our opinion.
We are on our second Autotrail and we had a Bessacarr prior to that.
Very happy with the build quality and spec....and indeed the Bess was pretty good too.
If you are buying an autotrail older than 2018 then check for damp. After that they were built out of composite materials so no wood (NB Check the 2018 date...it might even be 2017!)
I wouldnt discount Hymers. They are regarded as being a notch up on most British stuff and as someone alluded to, you see loads of really old ones still about. Indeed when we are abroad virtually every old MH we see is a Hymer.
Very happy with the build quality and spec....and indeed the Bess was pretty good too.
If you are buying an autotrail older than 2018 then check for damp. After that they were built out of composite materials so no wood (NB Check the 2018 date...it might even be 2017!)
I wouldnt discount Hymers. They are regarded as being a notch up on most British stuff and as someone alluded to, you see loads of really old ones still about. Indeed when we are abroad virtually every old MH we see is a Hymer.
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