Are Books Dated Now?

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goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
You'll enjoy your Kindle then.





Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
Not if you can't hand it down to someone - or leave little notes in the margins for others to read - or have a sniff nuts

Also, I like seeing books on bookshelves. A house with no books is a souless space.

Ace-T

7,699 posts

256 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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IainT said:
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
An idea is more than words. The delivery mechanism can enhance the communication of the idea. Take a wedding invitation as an example. You could get an email to Kate and Bill's wedding. Or you can receive hand delivered a sumptiously decorated invitation, personally handwritten by the Queen asking you to her grandsons wedding.

Content is the same, the overall package is quite different.

I have at least 6 different versions of the Sherlock Holmes stories as each delivery mechanism gives me something different.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

183 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
Not if you can't hand it down to someone - or leave little notes in the margins for others to read - or have a sniff nuts

Also, I like seeing books on bookshelves. A house with no books is a souless space.
Plus, the Playboy 50 year photo book is going to be a talking point on a coffee table, it's a different matter if your new neighbours come round for a drink and you're surfing for nudie women on your iPad.

IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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goldblum said:
IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
You'll enjoy your Kindle then.
I certainly do. I also enjoy my papery books as well.

In a perfect world I'd have a nice Library room with some comfy chairs to read in, dark oak bookshelves floor to ceiling packed with all my favourite books. Which I'd then read on an e-reader (kindle is not the only option, others might work as well, ymmv).

Goldblum - re-read your comment - it's the most pretentious load of old tosh I've read on here for a long while.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Papa Hotel said:
Plus, the Playboy 50 year photo book is going to be a talking point on a coffee table, it's a different matter if your new neighbours come round for a drink and you're surfing for nudie women on your iPad.
Ugh...sticky iPad. frown

goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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IainT said:
goldblum said:
IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
You'll enjoy your Kindle then.
I certainly do. I also enjoy my papery books as well.

In a perfect world I'd have a nice Library room with some comfy chairs to read in, dark oak bookshelves floor to ceiling packed with all my favourite books. Which I'd then read on an e-reader (kindle is not the only option, others might work as well, ymmv).

Goldblum - re-read your comment - it's the most pretentious load of old tosh I've read on here for a long while.
Do yourself a favour Iain - re-read the thread properly and you'll discover what I wrote has been echoed in different ways by a number of other posters with similarly

emotive language.A misjudgement on your part I think.

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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When my old man passed I inherited four large boxes of books that I have steadily worked my way through knowing that his hands turned the very same pages I am turning now. Occasionally I'll find a notation or scribble. Two days ago I opened the cover of a book I'm yet to read to see a short hand written message telling me that my father had been awarded the book for coming 1st in a school art competition, he must have been no older than 14.

Kindle? Not for me thanks.

Edited by DoubleSix on Sunday 16th December 22:48

GWC

4,423 posts

196 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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There is a simple pleasure in picking up and reading a book, all these e-book readers hold no interest to me whatsoever but I suspect they will become the norm.

g3org3y

20,640 posts

192 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Eric Mc said:
IainT said:
goldblum said:
A book has soul, Kindles do not.
A book is the content, ideas and emotions conveyed by an author. The rest is just delivery mechanism and is largely irrelevant.
Not if you can't hand it down to someone - or leave little notes in the margins for others to read - or have a sniff nuts

Also, I like seeing books on bookshelves. A house with no books is a souless space.
Inclined to agree.

After a recent visit to Japan (electronics central) am pleased to report that the printed word (books and manga comics) is alive and well and appears to be very very popular. Huge book shops over there, absolutely packed. I saw few ereaders on the subway but plenty of people carrying comics/books.

My gf bought me a Kindle for my birthday last year. I've so far yet to use it to actually read a book. Plus when browsing Amazon I have no inclination at all to buy the Kindle edition. You buy it, and it seems like you have nothing to show for it.

Proper books are superior imo. From the cover art (which often has a back story), to the smell of the book, the first opening of the spine etc. It's a whole 'experience'. I love browsing second hand book shops.

Yes the Kindle is more efficient but the reading 'experience' is much more than just seeing the words on a page/screen.

Plus, book shelves full of books are super cool!

BenM77

2,835 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Real books for me thanks, I understand the e-reader thing and believe they will grow in popularity but no way will they replace books.

I have just started reading again after a few years of not finding time (kids, life etc smile ). My Dad sadly passed away in March, the books I am reading are from his large collection and are the same books he started me off reading with such enthusiasm many years ago.

Books are special, they have been for thousands of years and they will continue to be so smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Paper is dead, it just doesnt know it yet.

Love my books but I had over 2000 of them, nightmare to store and sort through, even worse when spread all over the floor by an earthquake, again...

Now I just have a kindle. Easier to read, much lighter!

There are some downsides, not so easy to thumb back/forward a bunch of pages etc. But I cant see myself going back to paper books at all.

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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BenM77 said:
Books are special, they have been for thousands of years and they will continue to be so smile
Well, maybe 500 years anyway.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Cuniform is about 5000 years old...

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Conceded, but not exactly printed books.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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LordGrover said:
Conceded, but not exactly printed books.
A book doesn't have to be printed. Some of the most famous books in the world are hand written e.g. the Book of Kells.

IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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LordGrover said:
Conceded, but not exactly printed books.
These new fangled printed books have no soul. The only way to really enjoy and connect with an author's writing is in hand-carved stone tablets.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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IainT said:
LordGrover said:
Conceded, but not exactly printed books.
These new fangled printed books have no soul. The only way to really enjoy and connect with an author's writing is in hand-carved stone tablets.
Yeah and bugger the weight! In my day we used to take 7 or 8 tablets on holiday even if we didnt need to!

Ewan S

1,295 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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IainT said:
I certainly do. I also enjoy my papery books as well.

In a perfect world I'd have a nice Library room with some comfy chairs to read in, dark oak bookshelves floor to ceiling packed with all my favourite books. Which I'd then read on an e-reader (kindle is not the only option, others might work as well, ymmv).

Goldblum - re-read your comment - it's the most pretentious load of old tosh I've read on here for a long while.
Totally agree, a mate of mine and I have set each other the challenge to be the first to achieve this, and we're also agreed we both want a side table with a whisky decanter on it in said library room.

goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Chetham's Library in Manchester began collecting books in 1655.It's the oldest public library in England and work actually started on the building in the 1400s.It's open to the public most days and makes anyone who fancies their own private library look a little bit 'nouveau'. smile

It's an amazing place,as you'd expect.Some of the collections:

http://www.chethams.org.uk/collections.html