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captain_cynic

12,084 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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br d said:
What would people recommend first, Nights Dawn or Void trilogy?

I've read the Greg Mandels and Pandora star and Judas Unchained.
The Void Trilogy is set in the Commonwealth universe from Pandora Star and Judas Unchained but some time in the future, so if you liked the Commonwealth Saga I'd go with the Void trilogy.

I didn't really enjoy the Reality Dysfunction (1st book of the Nights Dawn trilogy) so I never bothered reading the rest, from what I've been told the ending was disappointing (very hand-wavey).

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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It's certainly visceral and unpleasant in parts (sexual assault of an 18 year old girl, torture, etc.) - however that is balanced by perhaps the most compassionate and compelling collaborative human society I've ever read of...

Which is why I adore the ND trilogy - it really does explore the full spectrum of the human spectrum and even provides a contrast against a couple of alien alternatives.

I also like the ending. For many reasons, I think it works really well (trying to avoid spoilers!).

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Thanks for everyone's advice, think I'll go with ND next then.

I have enjoyed the stuff I've read so far but sometimes he pads them a bit!

havoc

30,106 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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The_Doc said:
Sidenote: everytime I watch a SpaceX launch, I delight at the autonomous vessels Just Read the Instructions, Of Course I Still Love You and A Shortfall of Gravitas: Man I miss him!
How long until Musk names one Grey Area or Ethics Gradient?
Surely the next one should be "Mistake Not..." hehe
(which wins my award for the best space battle scene in a Culture novel)


...or possibly "Refreshingly Unconcerned With the Vulgar Exigencies of Veracity".

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Had to stop on my way home tonight.

I know the ND trilogy inside out - yet it's very different listening for some reason.

Avoiding spoilers, but a certain self sacrifice to allow a rather daring manoeuvre... Got me right in the feels!

Oh, BrD - one thing I didn't mention, but could effect some people badly - there is some (alien) animal fighting in the first book. Small section, but fairly brutal. Just FYI.

Baron Greenback

7,002 posts

151 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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https://newatlas.com/2019-auction-science-sci-fi-t...

The highlights of the science, sci-fi and technology auction year! Started reading at work and thought they are cheepish prices then noticed it started at the least to most expensive and so long a list (warning). There is some I would like to own and would think they would gain in value, the $6,348 | Gemstones from outer space as a geologist would like or the URWERK atomic clock and synchronized wristwatch!

Sway

26,336 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Baron Greenback said:
https://newatlas.com/2019-auction-science-sci-fi-t...

The highlights of the science, sci-fi and technology auction year! Started reading at work and thought they are cheepish prices then noticed it started at the least to most expensive and so long a list (warning). There is some I would like to own and would think they would gain in value, the $6,348 | Gemstones from outer space as a geologist would like or the URWERK atomic clock and synchronized wristwatch!
Nice! If you like that sort of thing (as I do) - check out the "mini museum". Now on it's fourth iteration, unfortunately I missed out on the first two.

But I absolutely love them.

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Sway said:
Oh, BrD - one thing I didn't mention, but could effect some people badly - there is some (alien) animal fighting in the first book. Small section, but fairly brutal. Just FYI.
Thanks for the heads up but I'm okay with fictional cruelty.

Along the same lines I'm a very big fan of the Aubrey Maturin books and in one of those a discussion takes place at a dinner party about the killing of a Bear and her 2 cubs, it is pretty unpleasant.
I visited a fan forum of the series and people were saying they completely skip that part of the book as they can't deal with it.
Again, it's fictional so it surprised me people would feel so disturbed.



NNH

1,520 posts

133 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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The_Doc said:
Thread hijack

I like hard Sci fi and space opera

What's your best 5 hard SF, because I need inspiration for my next read?

I have obviously read:
all Iain M. Banks
Alastair Reynolds Inhibitor trilogy and Pushing Ice
Most SF you find on a "best SF" list eg Neuromancer/ForeverWar/Dune/etc

an undiscovered IainMB novel please....
Have you read Baxter's NASA trilogy (Voyage, Titan, Moonseed)? I particularly liked Voyage.


havoc

30,106 posts

236 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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Just finished AT's "Dogs of War" as recommended on here.

Starts off as so much pulp sci-fi, but fairly quickly develops into quite a bit more than that with some great concepts.

As it stands, it's a good, easy-to-read and thought provoking novel (which ticks most of the boxes). But you wonder if in more skilled hands it could have been developed into something weightier and more evolved.

Either way, worth a read.

Narcisus

8,081 posts

281 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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havoc said:
Just finished AT's "Dogs of War" as recommended on here.

Starts off as so much pulp sci-fi, but fairly quickly develops into quite a bit more than that with some great concepts.

As it stands, it's a good, easy-to-read and thought provoking novel (which ticks most of the boxes). But you wonder if in more skilled hands it could have been developed into something weightier and more evolved.

Either way, worth a read.
Who’s AT ?

glazbagun

14,283 posts

198 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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Adrian Tchaikovsky. Also wrote the very good Children of Time which I devoured. Haven't tried DoW yet.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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Anything new out recently?

Most of my typical fav authors new books have been rather meh the last 6 months.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,624 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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I have a very big soft spot for Dogs of War. I've read it twice now.

It's not a long book, and is very much a book of two halves, both of which could do with being a lot longer. But it has some interesting concepts.

And Rex is a good dog.

Narcisus

8,081 posts

281 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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glazbagun said:
Adrian Tchaikovsky. Also wrote the very good Children of Time which I devoured. Haven't tried DoW yet.
Cheers

havoc

30,106 posts

236 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
And Rex is a good dog.
hehe

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Narcisus said:
Who’s AT ?
I think there must be a sticky on every new page for people not in the know with all the NS and AT and DoW DF and ZRL


(orfski to look up Dogs of War).

p1doc

3,126 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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havoc said:
Just finished AT's "Dogs of War" as recommended on here.

Starts off as so much pulp sci-fi, but fairly quickly develops into quite a bit more than that with some great concepts.

As it stands, it's a good, easy-to-read and thought provoking novel (which ticks most of the boxes). But you wonder if in more skilled hands it could have been developed into something weightier and more evolved.

Either way, worth a read.
I thought it was a great book with sad ending AT seems a very versatile author his fantasy novels are very good-redemption's blade and guns of the dawn and nearly forgot spiderlight
and rex is a good dog as said above

Edited by p1doc on Tuesday 4th February 13:46

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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It was pointed out to me on the Altered Carbon TV thread, that I had missed Richard K Morgan's third Altered Carbon book, Woken Furies.

So I went a bit bonkers and bought Thin Air, Black Man, Market Forces AND Woken Furies, all secondhand.

Just finished Thin Air, and it's pretty good.

Imagine a 30s detective noir, but set on Mars and with a lot more violence and sex, plus a plot that has everybody double-crossing everyone else.

Onto Market Forces now.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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JonChalk said:
Onto Market Forces now.
yeah not as good as the others, only read it once though