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Clockwork Cupcake

74,613 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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xeny said:
The initial premise of Seveneves is so broken from a Physics PoV I can't read beyond that point (same problem with Red Mars).
Some of it broken, and some of it just too much excruciating detail. I have a degree in Applied Physics (although I freely admit that it was a long time ago and I have probably forgotten so much of it that I could barely pass Physics O-level now) and even I found it too much detail. And, worse, it was simply unnecessary detail. To the detriment of the rest of the book.

I have posted my review of it a couple of times on the thread so I won't bore everyone with yet another full repost, but this snippet rather sums up Seveneves for me:

"[it is] like writing The Great Escape concentrating most of the effort on describing the tunnel digging, load calculations of the tunnel props, how the lighting was devised, construction of the digging implements, and then having half a page of dialogue where one guard mentions to another in passing that there was a breakout but that many prisoners have been recaptured or shot, and a chap on a motorbike had a pretty cool chase but was ultimately caught. And then a German Structural Engineer arrives and the next few chapters describe his admiration of the tunnel."

I shall try to give it a rest now. Sorry. paperbag




Nimby

4,596 posts

151 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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havoc said:
Anathem is worthwhile.

I agree above that he has a problem with endings, but the level of detail and immersion in the topic in his novels (for me at least), is wonderful stuff. Cryptonomicon is also good.


I'm currently reading this...successor to Wool...which I read about 3 years ago so have forgotten a few details which may be being cross-referenced here or useful to know.


Dystopian post-apocalypse stuff (without the zombies...well, not visible anthropomorphic ones anyway), but all the more human because of it.
I'm currently half-way through "Dust" - the third one. Just as bleak ...

hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
One author whose fantasy offerings I have not explored is Adrian Tchaikovsky. I love his sci-fi but I am wary of trying his fantasy, not least due to being stung by Neal Stephenson's aforementioned Baroque Cycle.
I was the same, not least because I'm not a big reader of Fantasy in general. After I'd read all of his Sci-Fi I ended up reading and enjoying the whole of his Shadows of the Apt series though.


Clockwork Cupcake

74,613 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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hairykrishna said:
I was the same, not least because I'm not a big reader of Fantasy in general. After I'd read all of his Sci-Fi I ended up reading and enjoying the whole of his Shadows of the Apt series though.
Maybe I will give it a go. He is very good at world-building and character development, and that transcends genres. Although, like you, I'm not really into fantasy.

DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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I'm re-reading Simmons' Ilium/Olympos duology - it's an absolute romp IMHO, completely bonkers but great fun. *Mostly* understanding it second time round although still find it hard to visualise the Gods on Mount Olympus being on Mars and the Trojans being on some kind of alternate Earth (albeit linked by wormholes) !

It has some great action, a bit of humour and a whole lot of crazy ancient Greek/sc-fi mash-up bits which are, if nothing else, unlike anything else I have read and an easy way in to Homer's Iliad smile

sociopath

3,433 posts

67 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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hairykrishna said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
One author whose fantasy offerings I have not explored is Adrian Tchaikovsky. I love his sci-fi but I am wary of trying his fantasy, not least due to being stung by Neal Stephenson's aforementioned Baroque Cycle.
I was the same, not least because I'm not a big reader of Fantasy in general. After I'd read all of his Sci-Fi I ended up reading and enjoying the whole of his Shadows of the Apt series though.
I have up on the shadows of the apt. I realised in the end that I didn't care who won or lost

havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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DibblyDobbler said:
I'm re-reading Simmons' Ilium/Olympos duology - it's an absolute romp IMHO, completely bonkers but great fun. *Mostly* understanding it second time round although still find it hard to visualise the Gods on Mount Olympus being on Mars and the Trojans being on some kind of alternate Earth (albeit linked by wormholes) !

It has some great action, a bit of humour and a whole lot of crazy ancient Greek/sc-fi mash-up bits which are, if nothing else, unlike anything else I have read and an easy way in to Homer's Iliad smile
Loved them. A nice, oddball follow-up to the darkness in Hyperion/Endymion.

...may have to dig them out once I've got through a chunk of the Christmas haul...

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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hairykrishna said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
One author whose fantasy offerings I have not explored is Adrian Tchaikovsky. I love his sci-fi but I am wary of trying his fantasy, not least due to being stung by Neal Stephenson's aforementioned Baroque Cycle.
I was the same, not least because I'm not a big reader of Fantasy in general. After I'd read all of his Sci-Fi I ended up reading and enjoying the whole of his Shadows of the Apt series though.
I loved Children of Time, Dogs of War and Bear Head, so gave some of is fantasy a go. I got about half way through the first Tiger and the Wolf book and gave up. Just didn't grip me the way his SF had.

DibblyDobbler

11,273 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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havoc said:
Loved them. A nice, oddball follow-up to the darkness in Hyperion/Endymion.

...may have to dig them out once I've got through a chunk of the Christmas haul...
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hairykrishna

13,183 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th January 2022
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RizzoTheRat said:
I loved Children of Time, Dogs of War and Bear Head, so gave some of is fantasy a go. I got about half way through the first Tiger and the Wolf book and gave up. Just didn't grip me the way his SF had.
I've not got to Tiger and the Wolf yet.

I'd recommend The Doors of Eden if you enjoyed his other sci fi.

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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just read neal asher jack four-vgood continuation in polity universe

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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p1doc said:
just read neal asher jack four-vgood continuation in polity universe
Neal Asher is consistently good, if you like his style / universe - there's him, Reynolds and Hamilton that I will pre-order stuff from.

p1doc

3,124 posts

185 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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JonChalk said:
Neal Asher is consistently good, if you like his style / universe - there's him, Reynolds and Hamilton that I will pre-order stuff from.
like Hamilton but could not get into Reynolds-any other recommendations
thanks

Baron Greenback

6,999 posts

151 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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p1doc said:
JonChalk said:
Neal Asher is consistently good, if you like his style / universe - there's him, Reynolds and Hamilton that I will pre-order stuff from.
like Hamilton but could not get into Reynolds-any other recommendations
thanks
Couldn't see if Ian M Banks been recommended, went back couple of pages.

xeny

4,318 posts

79 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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Try Vinge - :Fire Upon the Deep:, :Rainbow's End: or :Deepness in the Sky: are all pretty good. Nominally you're meant to read Fire before Deepness, but I know people who have enjoyed them the other way round.

C2Red

3,989 posts

254 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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Baron Greenback said:
p1doc said:
JonChalk said:
Neal Asher is consistently good, if you like his style / universe - there's him, Reynolds and Hamilton that I will pre-order stuff from.
like Hamilton but could not get into Reynolds-any other recommendations
thanks
Couldn't see if Ian M Banks been recommended, went back couple of pages.
Iain M Banks is widely recommended on here.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,613 posts

273 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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C2Red said:
Iain M Banks is widely recommended on here.
Indeed. Widely and frequently. yes

havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Saturday 29th January 2022
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C2Red said:
Iain M Banks is widely recommended on here.
Everywhere, I think.

Arguably the best science fiction writer for a generation, if not ever.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,613 posts

273 months

Saturday 29th January 2022
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havoc said:
Everywhere, I think.

Arguably the best science fiction writer for a generation, if not ever.
Certainly of a generation yes

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Saturday 29th January 2022
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A two-for-one post:

1. A recommendation for the oft-forgotten, but really very good "Embers of War" trilogy from Gareth L. Powell - the tribulations of AI warship Trouble Dog and Captain Sal Konstanz, reminded by seeing this tweet from Powell; https://twitter.com/garethlpowell/status/148742468... because,

2. It's being adapted for TV, with one of The Expanse's directors lined up; https://www.tor.com/2021/01/22/expanse-director-se...