Chickenhawk by Robert Mason

Chickenhawk by Robert Mason

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Scooby72

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182 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Just read Chickenhawk by Robert Mason for the second time.

A great book about the experiences of a Huey pilot in Vietnam.

From training to coming home a year later virtually a broken man

Part of the 'First team' one of the first pilots to land in Vietnam with the famous 'Air Cav'

Flying troops around by helicopter was a revolutionary and still experimental idea at the time (1965).

It gave the US a huge advantage in mobility, but at huge cost, compared to how the 'peasant' VC fought.

He is brutally honest about the things he did and saw out there, and what effect it had on his mental health over a year long tour, and the many years it took for him to re-adjust to life back home.

There is also a lot of interesting stuff about the more technical side of flying a helicopter, their limitations, and how they got round them.

Very good book, and highly recommended.

Have just ordered his follow up book 'Back in the world' about life after he returned to the US. Hope that is as good.

Liokault

2,837 posts

215 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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I agree, very very good book.

TheJimi

25,011 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Thanks to PH, this has been on my reading list for a while, so this thread has prompted me to order a copy.


Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Yes I'll check it out too. Thanks.

You might also like "We Were Soldiers Once… And Young" by Hal Moore & Joseph L. Galloway.

The then Lieutenant Colonel Moore was in command of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, at the brutal Battle of Ia Drang, in 1965 during the Vietnam War. It was made into a film back in 2002 with Mel Gibson as Hal Moore, but the film is really only the first half of the book, although it's fairly well done.


Scooby72

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683 posts

182 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Beati Dogu said:
Yes I'll check it out too. Thanks.

You might also like "We Were Soldiers Once… And Young" by Hal Moore & Joseph L. Galloway.

The then Lieutenant Colonel Moore was in command of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, at the brutal Battle of Ia Drang, in 1965 during the Vietnam War. It was made into a film back in 2002 with Mel Gibson as Hal Moore, but the film is really only the first half of the book, although it's fairly well done.
Yeh I watched a documetary on Youtube about that battle, and Joe Galloway was interviewed.

There's alot of interesting stuff on Youtube about Vietnam, which really helped bring the book to life.

Edited by Scooby72 on Tuesday 19th February 22:46

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,910 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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I loved this book - but as a technical 'machine / petrolhead' I enjoyed the hele related stuff the most. That's not to say I didn't identify with the war, the psychology of those involved, and the humanitarian side of it too....nasty business all round, and a seemingly pointless waste of life frown

But I really enjoyed hearing about the 'tuned, souped-up' chopper, and the occasions when they relied on the integrity and strength of the rotor blades to cut through tree branches and foliage in order to land in a site that was a wee bit too small to accomodate the disc at first yikes

And Robert Mason's inquisitive 'practicing' of what he could do and couldn't do with the chopper, and it's limitations that he wasn't taught in training - like tipping it forwards off a sheer cliff-face etc... yikes amazing what some of those brave pilots got away with back then within the theatre of insanity!!


robsa

2,260 posts

185 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Great book. I lump this book in with books like 'Devils guard' by George Elford and 'Forgotten Soldier' by Guy Sajer... I think because of having old paperback copies of all of them....

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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I've got the book now (£3 off Ebay) & am enjoying it. thumbup


Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
But I really enjoyed hearing about the 'tuned, souped-up' chopper
IIRC Actor & petrol head Steve McQueen got in trouble in the US Marines for souping up his tank. It sounds like the sort of thing he'd do. biggrin

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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There's rumours abounding that not all the exploits he describes were actually him, but that doesn't stop it ebing a great book.

I love the description of learning to hover, where they start off in a really big field and as you get better work your way in to smaller and smaller fields biggrin

Tango13

8,451 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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If you like Vietnam era aviation books try and find a copy of 'The Invisible Airforce' by Christopher Robbins.

It tells the real story or as much as could be found about Air America and their involvement in various far east wars. Having read it I refuse to watch Air America with Mel Gibson as it makes light of some very brave men.

Elroy Blue

8,689 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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Christopher Robbins also wrote an excellent book called 'The Ravens' about FACs operating in Laos

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Wednesday 20th March 2013
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I'm a couple of dozen pages into Matterhorn. It's looking like a seriously good read already.

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I've finished Chickenhawk now and found it very interesting and not a little harrowing. To be plagued by PTSD, even long after the event must be dreadful.

I've just received American Sniper by the late Chris Kyle, which was recommended to me. He was killed at a firing range recently by another former serviceman he was helping to overcome his PTSD.

RizzoTheRat said:
I love the description of learning to hover, where they start off in a really big field and as you get better work your way in to smaller and smaller fields biggrin
I had a flight in a British Army Lynx anti-tank helicopter a few years ago. It had the big exhaust dispersion bins and TOW launchers on either side. The pilots were great and happy to explain anything.

They usually fly so low that you're very aware that you are within a field, especially with the side doors open. In fact they use custom 1:250000 scale OS maps with the power lines highlighted. They also manually draw circles round certain farms and villages that have moaned about low flying.

Edited by Beati Dogu on Friday 22 March 00:04

Scooby72

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182 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I am now half way through the sequel to Chickenhawk "Back in the World"

This book is totally different to the first but still a great read, and describes how he suffered with PTSD for years after his return from Vietnam, and how it affected his life. To say he "went off the rails a bit" would be a major understatement !!

rumple

11,671 posts

152 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Scooby72 said:
I am now half way through the sequel to Chickenhawk "Back in the World"

This book is totally different to the first but still a great read, and describes how he suffered with PTSD for years after his return from Vietnam, and how it affected his life. To say he "went off the rails a bit" would be a major understatement !!
I'll check that one out, I suffered from PTSD for ten years myself, it will be interesting to read someone else's account of it.

stuartmmcfc

8,664 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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I read "back in the world" a few years ago and although it's completely diifferent, it still moved me.
worth tracking down.

Scooby72

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Saturday 23rd March 2013
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stuartmmcfc said:
I read "back in the world" a few years ago and although it's completely diifferent, it still moved me.
worth tracking down.
I believe it's no longer in print.

My copy cost me 20 quid for a secondhand hardback !! ...and took 3 weeks to arrive from America.

stuartmmcfc

8,664 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Scooby72 said:
I believe it's no longer in print.

My copy cost me 20 quid for a secondhand hardback !! ...and took 3 weeks to arrive from America.
I think you're right.
I got mine from eBay in the USA for about a fiver "( paperback), 2nd hand, a few years ago.

The_Doc

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221 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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TheJimi said:
Thanks to PH, this has been on my reading list for a while, so this thread has prompted me to order a copy.
I lent my copy to my brother, he loved it, a few years later he was making a career change and he's now a commercial helicopter pilot.

life's tough eh

g3org3y

20,639 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Just started this at the weekend. I have high hopes. smile