Fifth Gear 200mph car

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Tuna

8,523 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Philip_H said:
Ha. Ditch the Esprit (what a silly car to choose in the first place), buy a cheap Cosworth, Supra TT, Corvette or similar and start again.

Very, very easy to do for the money.


If it was easy to do, why are they having to chase for people who've done it?

There are a lot of people who claim (down the pub) that their car does XXX mph - very rarely true.

VXR SIX

733 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Brunters? The Suzook was on the A82!

John_S4x4

1,290 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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As Phil S has said, We have a PH'er who has done 200mph at Brunters.

Enter Rod Tarry and Mark Shead.

www.geocities.com/rtarry_uk/

To quote :-

"The Latest Conversion was carried out by Mark Shead of M.A.Developments. The resultant 630Bhp is massive but it is the 520ft/lb of Torque that sets this engine apart. Backed up with Progressive Controlled Direct Port Nitrous , Power is approx 750Bhp & 650ft/lb. This is 170ft/lb more Torque than a McLaren F1 and it gives the car incredible mid-range acceleration that the McLaren would struggle to live with.

The 0-60 time is limited by lack of traction, but once past 100mph no production car is capable of living with its acceleration. On the 16th September 2004 201.8mph was achieved along with a 0-100 in 7.1 & 0-150 in 13.3sec."


Welldone Rod You beat them to it already.

Regards John S


>> Edited by John_S4x4 on Thursday 14th April 14:08

4wd

2,289 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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That's quite mad. Well done.

williamp

16,198 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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So, back to the Lotus:

-loose weight. Lots more of it. Go fully for the air-con, door panels, enything electric. Think of the single minded persuit.
-aerodynamics: remove that bloody rear spoiler. Also sort out the front sopiler, and tape over anything which doesnt help engine cooling- you do not need to cool the brakes or suck it to the ground, just to get through the air
-tyres: the car will have big, wide tyres. Remove and replace with thin, skinny tyres. Thinner equals less drag. You dont need to handle well, just go through the air cleanly. Not sure about weight, but narrow motobike tyres will have a ncie thin thickness and be rated high enough
-Nitrous system. Someone mentioned this. Might be worth a try
-Did I mention weight? remove things like lights (even if they are pop-up) to save weight. Then use tape to smooth over the panel gaps
-Did I mention aerodynamics? The Esprit has a flying buttress- style. Probably not the best solution, so smooth this over with strong tape and a fake panel
-Get a small, thin driver

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bad_roo

5,180 posts

172 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Weight has f*** all to do with top speed if you've got a long enough track...

4wd

2,289 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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The quicker a car accelerates the more space you have reamining to achieve that theoretical vmax.

Hughesie2

12,539 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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bad_roo said:
Weight has f*** all to do with top speed if you've got a long enough track...


Agreed, but if you havent got the M4 to play with weight has a big advantage, now get back in your box

M@H

11,217 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Isn't the Vauxhall Calibra one of the most aerodynamic "normal" cars around..?

>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 14th April 14:20

Viper

9,980 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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find Ronnie in his Skyline R32, thats been proven over 200 a few times, not sure if it falls into 50k of mods though.

There was Supra last year at TOTB (Elvington 1.2 mile) that did over 200

>> Edited by Viper on Thursday 14th April 14:21

4wd

2,289 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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It will fall into the 'worth 30k now' box

CupraR

676 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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You can get a TT Supra to 800 HP for about 5 grand if you buy the kit from the US.

bad_roo

5,180 posts

172 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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What on earth prompted them to replace/rebuiild the original blown gearbox with another OE fit item?

www.quaife.co.uk/
(Google is your friend)

M@H

11,217 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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bad_roo said:
What on earth prompted them to replace/rebuiild the original blown gearbox with another OE fit item?

www.quaife.co.uk/
(Google is your friend)


Munter is your friend..

Munter at 12:51 said:

They'd be better off biteing the bullit and calling Quaife and asking if they can buy a 'box. Then flog it afterwards and put the original back on.

vixpy1

42,321 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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I'd check out the corvette forums, some the of ZR1's must be capable of 200mph..

Muncher

11,385 posts

184 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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If it's done at brunters it needs some pretty hefty brakes and I imagine tyres too to stop at the end!

Cerbera with NOS would be my first thought.

bad_roo

5,180 posts

172 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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M@H said:


Munter is your friend..


Munter at 12:51 said:

They'd be better off biteing the bullit and calling Quaife and asking if they can buy a 'box. Then flog it afterwards and put the original back on.



Got as far as biteing and bullits...

M@H

11,217 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Muncher said:

Cerbera with NOS would be my first thought.

Havng seen that one at PistonFest having a go up the drag strip ..or how about a road-going Tuscan Racer..?

HarryW

14,615 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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M@H said:

Muncher said:

Cerbera with NOS would be my first thought.


Havng seen that one at PistonFest having a go up the drag strip ..or how about a road-going Tuscan Racer..?

What a cracking idea , I remember one going down the strip at Brutingthorpe at TVRCC Mania a couple of years ago. It apparently over rev'd it in top gear, blowing it up, loads of smoke oil etc . I seem to recall someone saying that with its rpm/gearing/mph calcs showed that it WAS in excess of 200mph when it happened .
Don't think they told TVR when they exchanged the engine under the lease conditons though .

Harry

M@H

11,217 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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its got to be the way forwards I reckon

Fifth Gear should buy this:
www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/detail.asp?i=30699&s=131

then pop to TVR power and buy a tweaked engine.. and they've probably done it (for well under budget too)


>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 14th April 14:58