Audi A6 Tiptronic ... any good ?

[nevpugh308]

I'm looking at a 2001 (Y) Audi A6 1.8T with the tiptronic auto gearbox (6.5k, 87k miles).

Anyone have any experience with these paddle boxes ... are they any good ?

I've driven the Alfa Selespeed jobbie once and it was the most horrible, slow, jerky paddle shift I've ever tried in my life ! Hope this, being Audi, should be better .... ?!?

(also, would 87k in 4 years put you off ? It's the only thing I'm not sure about with this car ...)

Thanks !

[beano500]

nevpugh308 said:

...tiptronic...

Being thick here, but is this the same as the one they call "Multitronic"?

If so, it's "OK", but there are some known issues. If not - move along please, nothing to see here......

[hustlebabe]

Nop, wouldn't buy.
Tiptronic box on a 1.8 A6? Take you 'years' to get anywhere.
Fuel consumption naff.
Early Audi tiptronic boxes poorly designed.
Managed to seize 2 of this era when Audi let me test drive some of 'em
Total no no

[nevpugh308]

Yes, I think tiptronic is what they call multitronic too

1.8 turbo, 150bhp or so, 0-60 is about 9.3 secs according to parkers. Fuel consumption is about 32 as well (same source).

Are they that problematic then ?

[princeperch]

*should* all be motorway miles though?

[miniman]

nevpugh308 said:

1.8 turbo, 150bhp or so, 0-60 is about 9.3 secs according to parkers. Fuel consumption is about 32 as well (same source).

32 mpg in a 1.8T A6??? My 1.8T A4 gets about 26 mpg on average.

[targarama]

Multronic is what you really want. But that's only on the later cars - it's a CVT. Much smoother.

As you know Tiptronic is automatic with flappy wotsits. If you use it as an automatic it is good. I've never played with the tiptronicness bits on an Audi box.

BTW, mpg - I get 28-29 on average, just over 30 on a long run. Don't trust the mpg on the computer, it usually overreads.

[beano500]

miniman said:

nevpugh308 said: Fuel consumption is about 32 as well (same source). 32 mpg in a 1.8T A6??? My 1.8T A4 gets about 26 mpg on average.

2.4 A6, not too difficult to get 32mpg: surely the 1.8 will do at least as well, Shirley?

[R&J]

IIRC
multitronic is a stepless variable ratio gearbox, only available on 2-wheel drive Audis due to its size (now 7-speed) very smooth and a great 'box with economy to match a manual.

the tiptronic is a regular auto 'box smaller than the multitronic and therefore fits in with the 4x4 stuff.

both 'boxes can be used in semi-auto mode ie change up & down with the gearlever. The tiptronic steeringwheel paddles are available as another way to change gear without the gearlever, just needs the optional tiptronic 'wheel.

both also have sport mode which holds the gears for longer and changes down as speed drops, this can be a bit jerky though.

have experience with A6
4x4 3.2 petrol
4x4 3.0T diesel

2-wheel 2.0T petrol
2-wheel 1.9T diesel

the 2.0t petrol gave the best sporting drive
but the quattros have just amazing grip and would be my choice every time

Go drive a few

Rich

(currently using 2004 3.2 Quattro A6)

>> Edited by R&J on Sunday 19th June 13:31

[GetCarter]

R&J said:

IIRC multitronic is a stepless variable ratio gearbox, only available on 2-wheel drive Audis due to its size (now 7-speed) very smooth and a great 'box with economy to match a manual. the tiptronic is a regular auto 'box smaller than the multitronic and therefore fits in with the 4x4 stuff. both 'boxes can be used in semi-auto mode ie change up & down with the gearlever. The tiptronic steeringwheel paddles are available as another way to change gear without the gearlever, just needs the optional tiptronic 'wheel. both also have sprot mode which holds the gears for longer and changes down as speed drops, this can be a bit jerky though. have experience with 4x4 3.2 petrol 4x4 3.0T diesel 2-wheel 2.0T petrol 2-wheel 1.9T diesel the 2.0t petrol gave the best sporting drive but the quattros have just amazing grip and would be my choice every time Go drive a few Rich

Agree with all that. Re: the newer shifts... Not a fan of anything auto, but everyone that's driven the RS6 Quattro have been pretty impressed with the sport shift. Flappy paddles still not that fun, but the up/down stick shift is *almost* on the case.

If only the car was 500 Kg lighter and had a grown up manual!

[targarama]

R&J said:

IIRC multitronic is a stepless variable ratio gearbox, only available on 2-wheel drive Audis due to its size (now 7-speed) very smooth and a great 'box with economy to match a manual. the tiptronic is a regular auto 'box smaller than the multitronic and therefore fits in with the 4x4 stuff. both 'boxes can be used in semi-auto mode ie change up & down with the gearlever. The tiptronic steeringwheel paddles are available as another way to change gear without the gearlever, just needs the optional tiptronic 'wheel. both also have sport mode which holds the gears for longer and changes down as speed drops, this can be a bit jerky though. have experience with A6 4x4 3.2 petrol 4x4 3.0T diesel 2-wheel 2.0T petrol 2-wheel 1.9T diesel the 2.0t petrol gave the best sporting drive but the quattros have just amazing grip and would be my choice every time Go drive a few Rich (currently using 2004 3.2 Quattro A6) >> Edited by R&J on Sunday 19th June 13:31

Grip? you mean traction. 2WDs will be lighter and if anything a smidgette better handling. Traction is only really going to be an issue with bigger powered cars. At the beginning of this topic Nev asked about a 1.8T, with an auto box. Not the kind of thing that could spin it's wheels unless driven like it's on fire. I have never found a need for 4x4 on my A6, the only time I was stuck on an icey road was in a queue of cars, with a Land Rover behind me. No point in 4x4 there. Obviously if you live in a rural area with frequently iced up/snowed in roads I think Quattro is worth it though...

[R&J]

targarama said:

Grip? you mean traction

traction ...grip whatever it is allows for a more secure drive in the situations we use our cars in most; ie with other cars around, accelerating out of a T-junction into a stream of fast traffic, pulling onto roundabouts etc; comparing two of the Audis I have had I prefer the current A6 3.2 petrol quattro over the A4 2.0T petrol fwd, purely because it makes less of a fuss when delivering a large dose of right foot. The A4 may well have been a smidge faster, the A6 even in the wet just delivers.