The ultimate Q-Cars?

The ultimate Q-Cars?

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JonRB

66,023 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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alexkp said:
I think to be a true Q-Car (at least in this thread) it needs to be pretty much manufacturer standard
Pity, as I was going to nominate a Skoda Estelle with a TVR-tuned Rover V8 where the rear seats should be. I think that would be a hoot and possibly the ultimate Q-car. Having said that, unless you virtually rebuilt it with a triangulated spaceframe or something, it would probably have the torsional stiffness of wet lettuce and would therefore handle about as well.
Still, it would be worth doing just for sheer traffic light Grand Prix amusement if nothing else.

Same goes for any other humble car that has been seriously re-engined, such as the famous Reliant Kitten drag car or any of the Rover V8-engined Morris Minors.


>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 1st December 11:47

Ribol

9,354 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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For me a Q car is one that surprises me when it disappears up the road or when I drive it. Cars like the Lotus Carlton can be spotted from any angle as being more than the rep version. The Vantage version of an Aston is no more a Q car than an Aston is.

900T-R

20,377 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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281 bhp, 348 lbs/ft, 1,200 kgs. By virtue of the latter statistic, rally-bred suspension with some choice tweaks, and Toyo Trampio semi-racing rubber (not only road legal, but also wearing a full rain tread pattern, they're my only tyres for this car!), it goes round corners rather quickly, too. Also note the lack of Aero side-skirts and spoilers, and the fact that she's a five-door version rather than the three-door coupé. No badges except the saab roundel on the bonnet, either.

Going for 300 bhp and <1,200 kg...

yertis

16,159 posts

232 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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> 280bhp
< 6 seconds 0-60
> 160mph



Probably not "the ultimate" but sprung a few surprises in its time

>> Edited by yertis on Thursday 1st December 12:10

Ribol

9,354 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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900T-R said:
note the lack of Aero side-skirts and spoilers, and the fact that she's a five-door version rather than the three-door coupé. No badges except the saab roundel on the bonnet, either.

Going for 300 bhp and <1,200 kg...

Perfect example of a Q car

Matt_FP

3,402 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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900T-R said:




DB/Stig found it rather good fun as well!

Matt

jamieboy

5,863 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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How about a Volvo 440 Turbo? Horrible to look at, nasty to drive, but much, much quicker than people expect. Note - that's quicker, not quick.

L100NYY said:
Lancia Thema 8.32, Ferrari 3.2 V8 engine...0-60mph in 5.2 secs iirc?

I really like these, but I'm pretty sure it was based on the 3.0 litre from the 308 - I think 8.32 was 8 cylinders 32 valves.

0-60 in 5.2 sounds too quick - over a second quicker than the 308 - but I'll let justayellowbadge correct one or the other of us.

alexkp

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I seem to recall the 8.32 was around 6.5 secs - still pretty quick in that day.

superdavros

218 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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L100NYY said:
Most suprising q-car,
2.016v engine - was the first production car to feature a 16v lump. :anorak:



and alloy wheels.... and possibly a vinyl roof.
The Parka is on!

rsvmilly

11,282 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I remember reading an article about an Uno Turbo which had water injection. It had been de-badged to look like an Uno 45. That was a 'Q' car

JonRB

66,023 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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rsvmilly said:
I remember reading an article about an Uno Turbo which had water injection. It had been de-badged to look like an Uno 45. That was a 'Q' car
It wasn't an Uno (or possible Punto) with a Ferrari engine in it (allegedly), was it?

rsvmilly

11,282 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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That imortal one on Ebay? I could hardly tell it and a Ferarri apart

Bedford Rascal

29,469 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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JonRB said:
rsvmilly said:
I remember reading an article about an Uno Turbo which had water injection. It had been de-badged to look like an Uno 45. That was a 'Q' car
It wasn't an Uno (or possible Punto) with a Ferrari engine in it (allegedly), was it?
You'd need a serious chassis to get that kind of power down.

900T-R

20,377 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Which reminded me about this:

www.2cv.nl/publicaties/v8/index.html

Yes, it's a 1962 Citroën 2cv with a 5.7 litre Oldsmobile V8... Of course, the chassis needed to be purpose-built, but from the outside, you needed to look very closely to spot the slightly wider wheels and tyres (yes, they were wearing the OE hubcaps, and yes, the rears did fit behind the spats...). 0-62 was quoted as 4.5 secs IIRC...

JonRB said:
alexkp said:
I think to be a true Q-Car (at least in this thread) it needs to be pretty much manufacturer standard
Pity, as I was going to nominate a Skoda Estelle with a TVR-tuned Rover V8 where the rear seats should be. I think that would be a hoot and possibly the ultimate Q-car. Having said that, unless you virtually rebuilt it with a triangulated spaceframe or something, it would probably have the torsional stiffness of wet lettuce and would therefore handle about as well.
Still, it would be worth doing just for sheer traffic light Grand Prix amusement if nothing else.

Same goes for any other humble car that has been seriously re-engined, such as the famous Reliant Kitten drag car or any of the Rover V8-engined Morris Minors.


>> Edited by JonRB on Thursday 1st December 11:47


>> Edited by 900T-R on Thursday 1st December 12:58

JonRB

66,023 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Bedford Rascal said:
You'd need a serious chassis to get that kind of power down.
Indeed you would, and probably a dog or an uncle to help you out or something.

jd

2,134 posts

194 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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i dont really think a jag s tyre R is a Q car, thats what i would expect to be fast

i would say good Q cars, something liek a shitreon BX gti, surprisingly quick those

homebrew sleepers are the best though

thiers a ratty red cav with an LET turbo engine in it which is good

ive seen a stock corsa with a 2 litre XE on throttle bodies, that does a 13 second 1/4 (even has a sticker on the fuel cap saying diesel fuel only, Hire car styleee!)

a well tuned polo G40, as no one know what they are, and they are remarkably quick

vixpy1

42,462 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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Subaru Legacy GTB

JonRB

66,023 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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900T-R said:
www.2cv.nl/publicaties/v8/index.html

Yes, it's a 1962 Citroën 2cv with a 5.7 litre Oldsmobile V8... Of course, the chassis needed to be purpose-built, but from the outside, you needed to look very closely to spot the slightly wider wheels and tyres (yes, they were wearing the OE hubcaps, and yes, the rears did fit behind the spats...). 0-62 was quoted as 4.5 secs IIRC...
I can't understand the text (Dutch?), but certainly sounds fun and you're right, looks fairly standard on the outside. Bravo! I'll have one of those please. What a laugh.

superlightr

11,121 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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I used to own a Nissan sunny zx - no bells or whisles but fast. 1.8 16v Looks nothing but has a nice turn of speed and handled well. Thats a q car.

rsvmilly

11,282 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st December 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Subaru Legacy GTB

It will be when you've finished with it. That's so long as the engine doesn't go the same way as Mr E's.