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Excellent tonight , loved the tuning up of the lada especily when they took it round the test track in standard form 
the white van men were fun to watch shame ive now got a metallic silver van now other wise i could have had a go 
and whoever it was who said the stig was a froggy was right its not damon hill who i thought it was !
the white van men were fun to watch shame ive now got a metallic silver van now other wise i could have had a go and whoever it was who said the stig was a froggy was right its not damon hill who i thought it was !
viperman said: i thougt the masserati looked cheap and very soft for £61,000, and clarkson made the F1 style paddle gearshift look like a joke (which it is).
Totally agree with that even though i quite like the front of it and it did sound quite nice.
I'll have to believe you on the Stig thing
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alan_driver said: Whats with his explanation of horse power! does he think were all thick? by the year 2008 i think he sed cars wud be at 100,000hp going at this rate! what is he on about, cars with loads of hp have been around for ages.
I think he was taking the piss a bit! hmm, 'this much horsepower spread 6 inches thick will cover Belgium'. Maybe he got complaints about concentrating on horsepower or something similar.
Please remember, Jeremy Clarkson is just a journalist. His veiws on vehicles are just that, veiws. Every tabloid metaphor uttered, has me one step nearer turning the television off to go and do something less boring instead. I have no wish to gripe on, as the Drivel thread became a tedious ream of moans. But this programme has, in my opinon, the where with all to be so much more. To take the Masaretti, slate it, and compare it unfavorably to a Jaguar! The kudos of owning a Masaratti alone puts it high above anything that jaguar have built recently. The crowning glory of the whole show had to be the tremendous job done by Lotus on that Shit heap of a Lada, but to what end? They wasted the talents of 10 people, for two weeks, and £100,000 to build a maxed up lada! Being a dyed in the wool Lotus fan, I was appauled. Quite frankly I am rapdly going off this show.
???Isn't this just badge snobbery? If a car is good, it's good. Doesn't matter who built it - Skoda, Hyundai, Ford or whoever, and vice versa if it's bad.
Simonelite501 said: The kudos of owning a Masaratti alone puts it high above anything that jaguar have built recently.
That appealed to me - imagine having a £100,000 Lada that accelerated & cornered! Stealth supercar! OK I'm probably just sick & twisted, but put yourself in that guy's place - he's had a few hundred pound bomber transformed into something like that - it's so uncool, it's cool!
The crowning glory of the whole show had to be the tremendous job done by Lotus on that Shit heap of a Lada, but to what end? They wasted the talents of 10 people, for two weeks, and £100,000 to build a maxed up lada!
Firstly, the guy who owned the Lada has indeed got one hell of a deal, and on that count fair play to him for pulling it off. But it has to be argued that there must be a more deserving case out there, I guess its a similar case to that "Faking it" show the other night, that using inapropriate materials to cobble together rubbish makes good television. Personally, I would much rather have seen the guys at Lotus start with a car who's owner had really tried, albeit with a limited buget, to improve its performance and handling characteristics. As for the Badge snobbery thing, well yes of course it is! What do you think Mr Clarkson, or any of his contemporaries have built there careers on? What makes the Proton dealers selling Elise's such a huge talking point, why do sports car manufacturers put such vast amounts of cash into racing, and why do most people who buy exotia choose what they do? I would wager that Badge snobbery has an enormous part to play in the purchace of any vehicle,and right or wrong, my £60,000 would be in the pocket of the guy selling the Massa long before I'd even opened the Jaguar brochure. All my opinion, and due to the lack of £60,000, hypothetical of course.
Editted to say that I actually agree with the post above, Clarkson is quite the best motoring journalist there has been for a very long time.
>> Edited by Simonelite501 on Sunday 8th December 23:38
Editted to say that I actually agree with the post above, Clarkson is quite the best motoring journalist there has been for a very long time.
>> Edited by Simonelite501 on Sunday 8th December 23:38
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