Congestion Charging to come to Bristol next?

[dazren]

DON

I live on the outskirts of Bristol and work from an office at home. Always willing to drop everything and meet a fellow PH Porkernut at a pub. My email link is current.

DAZ

PS - see you sunday, I'll put your name down for a blast if you wouldn't mind doing likewise bitte!!

[simonelite501]

Piglet, the obvious answer for you is to stay on the motorway until J18 Avonmouth, and use the Park & Ride there.
Editted to say that the plans are for a light rail link from the Portbury area to the city centre using the old railway on the south side of the river.

>> Edited by simonelite501 on Monday 27th January 19:08

[dazren]

Piglet said: Ooh yes, what about a high speed Tram system, terminating somewhere on the North of Bristol - that would be a good idea... Oh yes, that's what BCC & South Glos have been arguing about for the at least the last 12 YEARS!!!!!!!!!! I bet they manage to implement congestion charging quicker...

Yes, but they're missing the point as you say, they're on about linking Parkway to Templemeads with a few interim stops and that's it (BCC are squabbling with Glos CC and saying no they will not link it the the mall at Cribbs Causeway for instance). This will have bugger all effect on the distance commuters who come in from gloucestershire etc and clog up the M32.

Years ago I was in Washington DC and I got onto the underground train system by travelling out of town to a hub like complex, ie travelling against the flow of traffic I would otherwise have been joining. This is what BCC should be looking at but won't. Eg we're not investing in a system for outsiders who don't pay council tax to us to get to work quickly. This is where central government should run roughshod through the council bumpkins and sort it out.

DAZ
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[Piglet]

Been there, done that... it's another good few minutes and miles down the motorway (and back), over the M4/M5 choas which I currently avoid. And then another 25 minutes into Bristol on the Bus. I have used it in the past but it doesn't solve the problem totally.

[dazren]

Simon.

I do hope they're going to do this Portbury scheme west of the M5. With the amount of development in Portishead in the last 5 years, we need to somehow get people in and out of the area without having to queue at the M5 Gordano intersection. I understand the railroute (passing under the suspension bridge?) is already up and running again for freight.

DAZ

[dimmadan]

when I was working for Transport for London (not in CC I hasten to add), the word was that if the London scheme was successful, then more cities would follow suit. Edinburgh etc....Ken is taking a big risk which no one else in the UK wanted to take at the time. So if it works expect other cities to implement a similar thing.

[simonelite501]

The freight link is one of the sticking points, the PBA has poured huge amounts of cash into the line and even managed to appease the people of Pill who were up in arms over it, so now the council have to talk nicely to them and work out how to "share" the line. The problems at Junction 19 have recently become much worse since the back door route from the docks, along Marsh lane and through Easton in Gordano, has been made one way into the docks. As dock entrances go the road into Royal Portbury is a joke.

[yertis]

I suspect BCC is doing this because Red Ken is doing it, rather than because it's a good idea. It's AN idea. My office looks out over a bus stop on the Gloucester Road. BCC are turning this road into a "Showcase Bus Route". Basically this means stopping everyone from parking along the road and screwing up the local community but I digress. The plan is that this will speed up the traffic. It won't. The reason it won't is that it's the buses that cause the congestion - I see it every day. Bus pulls up - and the passengers queue for ages to get on. Meanwhile, the traffic builds up behind. The simple answer to this is to put conductors back on the buses at peak hours, so people can get on and then pay. It's too simple for those fools at the Council House.

[agent006]

OOOH fantastic. The two best (read only viable), ways to my house are via either cribbs causeway with 2 hrs wait on the M5 most weekends. Or though the city centre. Brilliant, i'm trapped in my own home.

Having said that, theres probably a much better way there, but i barely know my way in off the M32 so far.

[Dan]

yertis said: It is the orange pub, but that was a joke - it looks ghastly. I'm hopeless at knowing the good pubs now I've got nippers. Dan - what's that place you TVR boys use on the ring road like? Would be good for people travelling both ways, as it were.

Phew I wasn't looking forward to walking in through the doors. I'm sure 'Le Pub' is 'loverly' but... well I don't know I just get a funny feeling about it..

Anyhow the local TVR Club meets at the Golden Heart at Winterbourne (directions can be found at www.tvrcc-bristol.co.uk/) only ever been there at lunchtime but its a nice enough place, and the Landlord is keen on cars (we take it in turns to terrify him round the ring road ) Let me know what day your planning.

Cheers Dan

[Michael30]

agent006 said: OOOH fantastic. The two best (read only viable), ways to my house are via either cribbs causeway with 2 hrs wait on the M5 most weekends.

hehe i know that i live about a mile from the mall. used to be a quiet place it now takes half an hour to get out of my road i went to a m8s house just before christmas on a saturday afternoon (won't try that again) took about two hours before i could get out of first gear.

I also hope to go to bristol uni next year trying to park near there is impossible and if you get a space when you come back you bumper will be rearanged or you will be stuck with no room to manoeuvre out of the space.

[agent006]

Michael30 said:
I also hope to go to bristol uni next year trying to park near there is impossible and if you get a space when you come back you bumper will be rearanged or you will be stuck with no room to manoeuvre out of the space.

And i have to pay for the privelige to have my bumpers rearranged outside my house too. What ever posessed me to buy a house in a city, let alone bristol. Any chance of a stupid-long-term-financial-decision smiley?

[dazren]

FAO Dan:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=65&t=27632

(Link to proposed Bristol Beers & Pie meet thread)

DAZ

[CaptainSensib1e]

Thread bump!

So Bristol City Council in their wisdom is going to ban all diesel vehicles from the centre of Bristol, and introduce a bigger zone where commercial diesel vehicles will have to pay a £9 daily charge to enter the city. Petrol cars can go wherever they like without charge or restriction.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-5029...

I can't really see how this will help pollution because everyone will just get petrol cars instead, which aren't massively better than modern diesels. And as the scheme won't launch for 2 years there's plenty of time to make the switch.

[budgie smuggler]

CaptainSensib1e said:

Thread bump!

So Bristol City Council in their wisdom is going to ban all diesel vehicles from the centre of Bristol, and introduce a bigger zone where commercial diesel vehicles will have to pay a £9 daily charge to enter the city. Petrol cars can go wherever they like without charge or restriction.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-5029...

I can't really see how this will help pollution because everyone will just get petrol cars instead, which aren't massively better than modern diesels. And as the scheme won't launch for 2 years there's plenty of time to make the switch.

Blimey, nearly 17 years since the last post. That's gotta be a record!?