RE: New British sports car: exclusive
Discussion
Well, personally I like it a lot, and if it lives up to the claimed performance stats, then it'll be a mind-bogglingly fast car. I just can't seem to love VTEC engines. I've driven three or four different Civic Type-Rs now, and I've hated all of them. Still, it seems like an ideal choice for this kind of application. Good luck!
Witchfinder said:
Well, personally I like it a lot, and if it lives up to the claimed performance stats, then it'll be a mind-bogglingly fast car. I just can't seem to love VTEC engines. I've driven three or four different Civic Type-Rs now, and I've hated all of them. Still, it seems like an ideal choice for this kind of application. Good luck!
Don't forget this car is only 650kg? so that torque could be anough! and this V-tec engine could do just fine! also when you put a SC on it the ECU can be changced so it can kick in some lower orso?
And because of the lightweigth car its fast and torque anough in almost all revs... when its double the weight like the car the engine came out...then its an aol different balgame then you realy need the high revs to feel it coming...but in this car almost all revs are spot on me thinks with such weight.
GTRene
For the record we run our own mapping on the ecu to obviously suit the car, which as pointed out, is less than half the weight of a Type R. We have mapped the vtec to come in at 4400rpm and torque peaks at (I think) 7500'ish rpm - things happen quicker after 4400rpm than I personally can think - but I am of a certain age!!!!
Not my kind of look personally...though I love that shot of the engine cover from above...but big respect to Javan for coming on and telling it like it is. No hyperbole, no bullsh1t, no dodging issues, but straight honest truth and a willingness to talk to potential customers. Class enough to avoid having a swipe at his competitors also, gets a manly handshake from me Javan. Good luck.
javanR1 said:
For the record we run our own mapping on the ecu to obviously suit the car, which as pointed out, is less than half the weight of a Type R. We have mapped the vtec to come in at 4400rpm and torque peaks at (I think) 7500'ish rpm - things happen quicker after 4400rpm than I personally can think - but I am of a certain age!!!!
Of a certain age
I'm 43 and my brains can't think that fast eighter
but when driving a fast car I get some sort of adreline shot in the brains and all works well the feeling that you life and are focust wonderful feeling on a open road and no police scamera's or laserguns pointing at me... sounds like you go the right way, and the looks on the picture's looks like a well made produckt! does the car come with a roof? and can it be made in LHD to? or arethe few you are planning to make all for the UK market...
GTRene
Hi Rene. No, the car does not come with roof but it does have a heater - it is completely pure, and you will have to be keen! Think of the Ariel Atom, a great and very brave design that has worked for its founder. We at identify with that sort of thinking - we are nudging on the performance of the Atom and just hope we can get the Javan R1 to be as good on the track. Yes, we have developed the R1 in left hand drive and the first three cars are being built and are going to the U.S. However, the 12 per year are for everywhere including Europe and Japan. It may seem very strange to people, but when you work for nearly 5 years in trying to get a car to market - then suddenly you realise that the product is ready, building the orders can become a problem. Too many and you are overtrading and could risk everything, no orders at all is a similar problem! I have fixed a strict 1 per month so that we can "learn" how to build for production, rather than each one being a prototype - I hope you understand. This forum is good fun - keep it coming........
Harry 521 Yuk Yuk and more Yuk - whats that all about then?
Harry 521 Yuk Yuk and more Yuk - whats that all about then?
Hi Javan, I noticed an article on 4Car and followed the source and found myself here. My question is whether you've thought of doing a kit version and also whether an electric version might be something for the future? The sportcar purist might question this (I'm one of those, honest) but what with rising petrol prices and some awful electric vehicle design what are we left with? When the SCA-5 had a motorbike engine it weighed 560Kg (now with a Honda unit it up to 670Kg - how much does the engine & gearbox weigh?), so there seems to be no better base vehicle, with the added advantage that it looks fantastic too! I guess the SVA helps, so that it doesn't have to look like the G-Whiz or the NICE Mega City. People will say what about the batteries, but with a well packaged design why should this be an issue? Surely this is moving to a point where you could have a "point 'n' squirt" electric car that's great for the environment and a hoon to drive! All the very best, Vez
Hi Ves. Firstly, we cannot supply the R1 as a kit, it was never intended or designed as such, however, we are prepared to supply the finished rolling chassis without engine/box which would shed about £4K off the purchase price. Electric? - we love the idea and have talked about it a lot as the technology is out there - we would love to develop something, our chassis would be ideal, but we dont have the sort of money required. I did notice the Venturi Fetish which is priced at £300,000 + Vat if you wanted one!!
I actually doubt the Strathcarron claim of 560Kgs and I have not actually weighed ours. But if it is, remember that although the R1 has got "fat" by 110Kgs, we have added about 100bhp over the Strathcarron to compensate!!!
I actually doubt the Strathcarron claim of 560Kgs and I have not actually weighed ours. But if it is, remember that although the R1 has got "fat" by 110Kgs, we have added about 100bhp over the Strathcarron to compensate!!!
ves said:
...electric car that's great for the environment...
An electric car is not implicitly good for the environment. The electricity used to charge the batteries would need to come from a renewable/nuclear source, the batteries would need to be produced in an environmentally friendly manner, and they would need to be disposed of properly at the end of the vehicle life.
Witchfinder said:
An electric car is not implicitly good for the environment.
I agree, and perhaps it was the wrong wording. The point was about the base vehicle being as light as possible to start with before the electric technology is added. £300K is a little too much for such a car and particularly if my commuting journey is a round trip of 10 miles! But I think its interesting that there are potential solutions & opportunities out there.
ves said:
Witchfinder said:
An electric car is not implicitly good for the environment.
I agree, and perhaps it was the wrong wording. The point was about the base vehicle being as light as possible to start with before the electric technology is added. £300K is a little too much for such a car and particularly if my commuting journey is a round trip of 10 miles! But I think its interesting that there are potential solutions & opportunities out there.
I'd certainly be interested in something electric for my (hopefully if move happens) future journey to work. It's just to far to walk (well quite a bit too far for me) but as it's mostly in crappy traffic I need virtually no performance at all, and frankly I wouldn't be doing it for the environment, I'd be doing it for my pocket and to stick 2 fingers up at the Gov't taxes
thing about an electric car is that surely you want a decent electric road car to get sales. electric track car is a nice idea but at the end of the day just cannot attract the market you need. that said...ignoring the Fetish...think last months Evo (not most recent one) mentioned Ariel looking at a 57 grand Atom with electric power....which struck me as damn cheap
It makes me proud to be British when small companies like Javan Sports Cars have the bottle to design and build a production sports car. It is very easy to criticize projects like this but anyone who has been involved in such a project will know how hard it can be. With passion and enthusiasm a small number of people can achieve there dream and produce a fantastic sports car like this. What we have to remember is Javan Sports Cars are planning to produce only 12 cars in the first year of production so you won’t be seeing one round every corner, and there are a lot of people out there who can afford a new toy to park in there motor house with possibly 4 or 5 other cars. I see some of you are asking about weather protection and doors, all I can say to that is you should not be looking at a car like this if a little water offends you, go and buy yourself a Micra.
The one question I ask all of you who like this car, would you get the "grin factor" accelerating at a super car rate and sliding the tail out round your local track or airfield? I know I would.
The one question I ask all of you who like this car, would you get the "grin factor" accelerating at a super car rate and sliding the tail out round your local track or airfield? I know I would.
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