Helicopter Crash on Colin McRaes land

Helicopter Crash on Colin McRaes land

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Hard-Drive

4,079 posts

229 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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npope said:
not sure if this has alread been posted but we worth a look

enjoy
another

Edited by npope on Monday 17th September 16:06


Edited by npope on Monday 17th September 16:09
Bit choked watching that first one!

Vipers

32,883 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th September 2007
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Polarbert said:
Mastiff said:
Towie said:
Diana anyone?
Colin was quicker, surely...
Obviously.
At least Colin will be missed

smile

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

234 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1520782007

Interesting news. Obviously this is just speculation as it differs from the above report but I have heard from numerous sources within the sport that one of the rotor blades was found a good distance away from the crash site.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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lot of so called experts putting their theories.... could be any causes, most probably mechanical failure. As for some people saying he would have been able to auto-gyrate in event of engine failure, they litterally cant see the wood for the trees - the copter crashed in woodland, even if it was autogyrating the impact with the trees would surely have caused catostrophic damage and explosion.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Tony*T3 said:
the copter crashed in woodland, even if it was autogyrating the impact with the trees would surely have caused catostrophic damage and explosion.
Nah, an autogyro landing can be every bit as soft as a normal one depending on height, but I doubt he had the time for it anyway. He was off his normal approach wasn't he? so perhaps he had warning of mech failure and was trying to set it down somewhere, if a blade came off it would be sudden and nasty.

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Apache said:
Nah, an autogyro landing can be every bit as soft as a normal one depending on height,
But not many normal landings are made on trees, right?

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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carl_w said:
Apache said:
Nah, an autogyro landing can be every bit as soft as a normal one depending on height,
But not many normal landings are made on trees, right?
No. We can only guess what speed/height he was at and how tall or thick the trees were.

All I was saying is an autorotate is something that is practised, I've watched small and big stuff do it and it's quite undramatic, from the ground wink So if it was not too high or fast and the trees not too big or high it might not have been so catastrophic, ie in the hover above the canopy of the forest


Rotaree

1,146 posts

261 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Apache said:
carl_w said:
Apache said:
Nah, an autogyro landing can be every bit as soft as a normal one depending on height,
But not many normal landings are made on trees, right?
No. We can only guess what speed/height he was at and how tall or thick the trees were.

All I was saying is an autorotate is something that is practised, I've watched small and big stuff do it and it's quite undramatic, from the ground wink So if it was not too high or fast and the trees not too big or high it might not have been so catastrophic, ie in the hover above the canopy of the forest
I fly Sea Kings for a living and whilst, in theory, you could make a relatively gentle autorotation into the top of trees it would take quite a bit of practice and I don't think autorotations are something civilian pilots pracrice that often - we do them a lot but to large flat areas like airfields and I wouldn't fancy trying to end up in the top of a tree; for one thing, even if you manage it, you'll still be in the top of a tree with a lot of very heavy machinery which won't stay there for long!

Unfortunately this article, just like many others, is complete, inaccurate speculation - the aircraft was a single not a twin squirrel and no wonder they can't find the 'drive-belt' - it doesn't have one (at least not to drive the rotorhead anyway). rolleyes

GolfGT

5,190 posts

210 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Rotaree said:
Apache said:
carl_w said:
Apache said:
Nah, an autogyro landing can be every bit as soft as a normal one depending on height,
But not many normal landings are made on trees, right?
No. We can only guess what speed/height he was at and how tall or thick the trees were.

All I was saying is an autorotate is something that is practised, I've watched small and big stuff do it and it's quite undramatic, from the ground wink So if it was not too high or fast and the trees not too big or high it might not have been so catastrophic, ie in the hover above the canopy of the forest
I fly Sea Kings for a living and whilst, in theory, you could make a relatively gentle autorotation into the top of trees it would take quite a bit of practice and I don't think autorotations are something civilian pilots pracrice that often - we do them a lot but to large flat areas like airfields and I wouldn't fancy trying to end up in the top of a tree; for one thing, even if you manage it, you'll still be in the top of a tree with a lot of very heavy machinery which won't stay there for long!

Unfortunately this article, just like many others, is complete, inaccurate speculation - the aircraft was a single not a twin squirrel and no wonder they can't find the 'drive-belt' - it doesn't have one (at least not to drive the rotorhead anyway). rolleyes
off the topic here but if you down at cornwall base is number 18 sea king in motion?

Rotaree

1,146 posts

261 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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GolfGT said:
off the topic here but if you down at cornwall base is number 18 sea king in motion?
Sorry Emma, not sure I understand the question confused

GolfGT

5,190 posts

210 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Rotaree said:
GolfGT said:
off the topic here but if you down at cornwall base is number 18 sea king in motion?
Sorry Emma, not sure I understand the question confused
YHM smile

Rotaree

1,146 posts

261 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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GolfGT said:
Rotaree said:
GolfGT said:
off the topic here but if you down at cornwall base is number 18 sea king in motion?
Sorry Emma, not sure I understand the question confused
YHM smile
At work now - I'll check when I get home..................suppose I'd better do some work now then smile

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Did anyone go to the service at the weekend?

15000 people apparently. A fitting send off.

Kibosh

1,081 posts

239 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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ferrisbueller said:
Did anyone go to the service at the weekend?

15000 people apparently. A fitting send off.
Yes I was there. The Service was a Glorious Celebration.

bmwdrivernigel

8,596 posts

224 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Moose1978 said:
Never forgotten!!! RIP



A wonderful picture showing the dedication and commitment of a true professional going about his business.....

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Monday 1st October 2007
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Kibosh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Did anyone go to the service at the weekend?

15000 people apparently. A fitting send off.
Yes I was there. The Service was a Glorious Celebration.
clap

Great stuff. Fair play to you for going. I wish I could've made it.

beer

Reidy10_0

1,123 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2007
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I was there,
It was a great send off with around 16000 people and hardly a dry eye t be seen.
I posted some pics in the photos and video blog.

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...

Edited by Reidy10_0 on Tuesday 2nd October 08:35

Hobbit123

636 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2007
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A mate and I made the trip from Newcastle to be there. It was a rather emotional event, to say the least. It was, as said before, a glorious celebration of Colin and his sons lives. There was laughter when Ari Vatenen described the first time he and Colin were put in a rally car together. Ari decided he would teach Colin a lesson about driving quickly. 5kms later the car was on its roof.

In comparison, it was absolutely heart rending when they showed some home video of little Johnny getting a bike for Christmas, shouting 'again, again, again!' when he was skiing and his daddy shouting at him to do doughnuts in his go-kart. All very personal moments, all very touching.

I honestly don't know how the families are coping with the losses they have experienced recently. I guess that it's something that only time will ease the pain of.

It turns out Colin's motto was "We're here for a good time, not a long time". Such a cruel irony.

RIP all those who perished in this terrible tragedy.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Friday 5th October 2007
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Hobbit123 said:
It turns out Colin's motto was "We're here for a good time, not a long time". Such a cruel irony.
Top motto that.

mateus

272 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th October 2007
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Just watched the ITV4 tribute program, what a life he led, he certainly wasn't afraid to live.. I've watched the whole saga unfold and it just makes me feel for the family...