Is it possible to water dowwn beer at the bar?
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Sounds like silly question probably but: My mates and I have noticed that the Stella Artois served in the village pub (two doors up fom the house 
) is far more potent than that which is slopped out in the Cambridge city centre bars.
Three pints down along with the footie last night and I was hammered enough to spend over three hours on MSN messenger to an Ex (which was quite cool), then accidentally nearly hop into bed with one of my male mates!*
Why is the beer so much more evil out here in the styx?
Mouse
* the guy had stolen my usual bed. I was carried there by the "Stella-fuelled Beer train". Force of habit, not desire, believe me!
) is far more potent than that which is slopped out in the Cambridge city centre bars. Three pints down along with the footie last night and I was hammered enough to spend over three hours on MSN messenger to an Ex (which was quite cool), then accidentally nearly hop into bed with one of my male mates!*
Why is the beer so much more evil out here in the styx?
Mouse
* the guy had stolen my usual bed. I was carried there by the "Stella-fuelled Beer train". Force of habit, not desire, believe me!
dont know about watering down, but my advice is dont order draught beer in sh1te 'restaurants'.
Was in a curry house the other day, walking towards toilets, saw the barman (out of site of diners) pouring the slop tray into some unsuspecting punter's pint of carlsberg. Filthy
er!!
needless to say, I changed my order to a bottle!
Was in a curry house the other day, walking towards toilets, saw the barman (out of site of diners) pouring the slop tray into some unsuspecting punter's pint of carlsberg. Filthy
er!! needless to say, I changed my order to a bottle!
I'm not sure how watering-down would be possible. Beer comes in pressurised barrels so you can't just pour some out and pour some water in. The water would have to be mixed with the beer by the tap (similar to the way Coke syrup is mixed I guess). I can't imagine those pubs owned by large companies would install taps that illegally watered-down beer.
thanuk said:
I'm not sure how watering-down would be possible. Beer comes in pressurised barrels so you can't just pour some out and pour some water in. The water would have to be mixed with the beer by the tap (similar to the way Coke syrup is mixed I guess). I can't imagine those pubs owned by large companies would install taps that illegally watered-down beer.
I think this is what a lot of places do, when the beer comes out of the barrel they have a water tap attached which mixes with the beer on it's way to the tap.
It does happen (and I think it's legal too).
Of course it happens!
It tastes so much weaker and crappy when its been watered down. Some places you "expect" it i.e when its £1 a pint in some student dive. But if you are in some swish city centre pub paying £3 a pint its downright disgraceful.
Surely its not legal unless they tell you they are doing it?!!
It tastes so much weaker and crappy when its been watered down. Some places you "expect" it i.e when its £1 a pint in some student dive. But if you are in some swish city centre pub paying £3 a pint its downright disgraceful.
Surely its not legal unless they tell you they are doing it?!!
Neil_H said:thanuk said:I'm not sure how watering-down would be possible. Beer comes in pressurised barrels so you can't just pour some out and pour some water in. The water would have to be mixed with the beer by the tap (similar to the way Coke syrup is mixed I guess). I can't imagine those pubs owned by large companies would install taps that illegally watered-down beer.[/quote]
I think this is what a lot of places do, when the beer comes out of the barrel they have a water tap attached which mixes with the beer on it's way to the tap.
It does happen (and I think it's legal too).[/quote]
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lost the quoting somehow
probably happens but very much illegal........
Man walks up to bars says "pint of carlsberg please my good man"
Barman pours "80% carlsberg 20% water" via mix tap arrangement
Man says "I ordered a pint of carlsberg not a pint of 80% carlsberg + 20% water" see you court you lieing cheating robbing
Man uses "sale of goods" and "trade descriptions acts" to great effect and bar comes off very very badly.....
Equally trading standard can test the beer to ensure it is what it claims to be
>> Edited by dontlift on Thursday 21st August 10:59
I think this is what a lot of places do, when the beer comes out of the barrel they have a water tap attached which mixes with the beer on it's way to the tap.
It does happen (and I think it's legal too).[/quote]
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lost the quoting somehow
probably happens but very much illegal........
Man walks up to bars says "pint of carlsberg please my good man"
Barman pours "80% carlsberg 20% water" via mix tap arrangement
Man says "I ordered a pint of carlsberg not a pint of 80% carlsberg + 20% water" see you court you lieing cheating robbing
Man uses "sale of goods" and "trade descriptions acts" to great effect and bar comes off very very badly.....
Equally trading standard can test the beer to ensure it is what it claims to be
>> Edited by dontlift on Thursday 21st August 10:59
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heres how its done;
breweries charge top wack for the premium beers.
3rd party companies come along with independant lager offers, much cheaper.
a) if you do to much barrelage with the brewery, they put your rent up too!
b) pubs deal in CASH. cash to 3rd party, cash back from customer, NO TAX
c) most people never complain, or cant tell after a couple..
if they do, ever had the line.. "ooh I'll try the other tap.." --- its rigged to the real barrel.
"I'll check the barrel" -- they swap the pipe over.
its very hard to prove, you cant buy stella litmus paper.
After taking out brewery rent, staff wages, electricity etc, theres less than 5p profit per pint on the premium brands. But if you dont stock it, you dont get any customers, its a viscious circle, you can hardly be suprised why some pubs do it.
(ex-landlord)
breweries charge top wack for the premium beers.
3rd party companies come along with independant lager offers, much cheaper.
a) if you do to much barrelage with the brewery, they put your rent up too!
b) pubs deal in CASH. cash to 3rd party, cash back from customer, NO TAX
c) most people never complain, or cant tell after a couple..
if they do, ever had the line.. "ooh I'll try the other tap.." --- its rigged to the real barrel.
"I'll check the barrel" -- they swap the pipe over.
its very hard to prove, you cant buy stella litmus paper.
After taking out brewery rent, staff wages, electricity etc, theres less than 5p profit per pint on the premium brands. But if you dont stock it, you dont get any customers, its a viscious circle, you can hardly be suprised why some pubs do it.
(ex-landlord)
pdV6 said:
Beer comes in pressurised barrels
Although some of the "creamy head" varieties use nitrogen Watering down any beer is straight forward, real ale just pour water in the top through the vent hole
With lager yuo have to make up a tool using a keg connector so you can get the spare air out while putting water in
(used to work for a very dogy geezer)
>> Edited by Incorrigible on Thursday 21st August 11:17
s2ooz said:
heres how its done;
breweries charge top wack for the premium beers.
3rd party companies come along with independant lager offers, much cheaper.
a) if you do to much barrelage with the brewery, they put your rent up too!
b) pubs deal in CASH. cash to 3rd party, cash back from customer, NO TAX
c) most people never complain, or cant tell after a couple..
if they do, ever had the line.. "ooh I'll try the other tap.." --- its rigged to the real barrel.
"I'll check the barrel" -- they swap the pipe over.
its very hard to prove, you cant buy stella litmus paper.
After taking out brewery rent, staff wages, electricity etc, theres less than 5p profit per pint on the premium brands. But if you dont stock it, you dont get any customers, its a viscious circle, you can hardly be suprised why some pubs do it.
(ex-landlord)
(current landlord) 
I think instead of watering down the beer in the bar, the breweries can probably very easily make and sell cheaper beer with a lower alcohol content to bars/clubs at reduce cost. But the bars & clubs stil charge the top rate.
Result - more profit for all.
This of course also adds the problems of the other thread on here about Brits drinking abroad.
Result - more profit for all.
This of course also adds the problems of the other thread on here about Brits drinking abroad.
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