Frameless windows - why?
Discussion
neil_bolton said:
Murdock said:
neil_bolton said:
However, once you've poked yourself in the face a few times getting into the car on the edge of the glass, the novelty soon wears off 
Precisely how I smashed my last pair of glasses. Even worse when your passenger/missus wets herself laughing at you. Anger/fuming wasn't the word
johnfelstead said:
It helps keep the centre of gravity low, which is a major design phylosophy to any Subaru with it's boxer engine layout.
I doubt the hefty rubber seal required weighs less than the metal frame for the door. On the E36 the saloon weighs less and has better torsional rigidity than the equivalent coupe.neil_bolton said:
never mind the fact that the glass sticks to the seal in the winter and there's nothing that you can do!
THE single most annoying trait of them. In the past I've put a light smear of rubber lubricant on the seals - doesn't seem to freeze but you do of course then have a smeary glass 
Still, better than standing with a homer like expression when you can't get in your car.I used to love them when I had my Rover 218vvc coupe. Makes you feel special when you open the doors with the windows down
One good thing about them though is that when you lock your keys in the car, the windows have enough give to bend them out slightly enough to pull the lock up inside. Not such a good thing when its not you pulling the lock up though...
One good thing about them though is that when you lock your keys in the car, the windows have enough give to bend them out slightly enough to pull the lock up inside. Not such a good thing when its not you pulling the lock up though...
Mars said:
OK, so everyone is saying they are suitable for Cabrios, but who has heard of a Subaru Legacy Cabrio? Why does Subaru persist with frameless windows when they haven't EVER (as far as I can tell) made anything without a roof?
...although the late Mr McRae did his best on many occasionsHave a Bugeye Impreza WRX and I like the look with them, also I had always thought that if I win the lottery I could make a convertible Impreza easier 
The only problem I have with them is the first time I hit 120mph in the car there was a sudden loud buzzer noise and it made me thought that the car was fitted with some speed alarm. On the second time up to that speed I realised it was the wind vibration of the window against the seal and thus you have to drop the window and re-raise to remove the noise. Which does add a little extra twist to flying down Fuchsröhre
I did complain to my Subaru dealer but they said they had no way of testing it and thus couldn't fix it
The only problem I have with them is the first time I hit 120mph in the car there was a sudden loud buzzer noise and it made me thought that the car was fitted with some speed alarm. On the second time up to that speed I realised it was the wind vibration of the window against the seal and thus you have to drop the window and re-raise to remove the noise. Which does add a little extra twist to flying down Fuchsröhre
I did complain to my Subaru dealer but they said they had no way of testing it and thus couldn't fix it
RacingPete said:
Have a Bugeye Impreza WRX and I like the look with them, also I had always thought that if I win the lottery I could make a convertible Impreza easier
The only problem I have with them is the first time I hit 120mph in the car there was a sudden loud buzzer noise and it made me thought that the car was fitted with some speed alarm. On the second time up to that speed I realised it was the wind vibration of the window against the seal and thus you have to drop the window and re-raise to remove the noise. Which does add a little extra twist to flying down Fuchsröhre
I did complain to my Subaru dealer but they said they had no way of testing it and thus couldn't fix it
They still do it!The only problem I have with them is the first time I hit 120mph in the car there was a sudden loud buzzer noise and it made me thought that the car was fitted with some speed alarm. On the second time up to that speed I realised it was the wind vibration of the window against the seal and thus you have to drop the window and re-raise to remove the noise. Which does add a little extra twist to flying down Fuchsröhre
I did complain to my Subaru dealer but they said they had no way of testing it and thus couldn't fix it
neil_bolton said:
Murdock said:
neil_bolton said:
However, once you've poked yourself in the face a few times getting into the car on the edge of the glass, the novelty soon wears off
Precisely how I smashed my last pair of glasses. Even worse when your passenger/missus wets herself laughing at you. Anger/fuming wasn't the word
Shirley a frameless door is easier to avoid that framed, as it is likely to be lower and less bulky?
sjwb said:
Simple reason? COST.
Door press tooling cheaper, door unit cost cheaper.
Not forgetting input from the felt tip fairies of course (stylists);)
Frameless doors are not cheaper to manufacture than an equivalent framed.Door press tooling cheaper, door unit cost cheaper.
Not forgetting input from the felt tip fairies of course (stylists);)
Hello / big bump
I may need to source a car with a "long" boot to get a wheelchair in, but as it will need to fit in a 2.5m wide garage, I think frameless doors will help too.
So, what +2020 reg 4-door cars have frameless windows... Are there any these days? I see Peugeot 508 and Audi A5 sportbacks, but not many / any others.
I may need to source a car with a "long" boot to get a wheelchair in, but as it will need to fit in a 2.5m wide garage, I think frameless doors will help too.
So, what +2020 reg 4-door cars have frameless windows... Are there any these days? I see Peugeot 508 and Audi A5 sportbacks, but not many / any others.
Edited by dino_jr on Friday 22 March 09:46
Edited by dino_jr on Friday 22 March 09:48
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