RE: My First Car: Ford Escort XR3i

RE: My First Car: Ford Escort XR3i

Monday 24th November 2008

My First Car: Ford Escort XR3i

It was all going well for PHer David Hundley's XR3i until the wheel fell off...



It’s 1991, I’m 16, about to turn 17, and have decided I obviously need a car before I pass my test. All I cared about was (in no particular order): partying, hanging out at college, loud music and girls. Having had a Dad who worked for Volkswagen and Audi, and having grown up with them you would have thought I would have used the common sense part of my brain cell and purchased a VW.

But no. I could have had a Golf GTI, but for some reason decided to purchase a white 1986 Escort XR3i, with 25k miles. Why did I make such a decision? Because it had electric everything, nice seats and cloverleaf alloys, where as the similar priced golf, looked more like a coal cabin inside, and it just didn't seem cool, with its P-slot wheels and tiny spoiler.

Anyway the XR3i had a CD player and no one, expect people with Porsches, has a CD player in a car. The CD player only survived two months, due to me leaving the window open on a dodgy housing estate in Banbury. So the car was driven around my mum's driveway until, a week after my 17th when I passed my test.

£1,100 later for the insurance, which seemed worth the pain at the time, I was ready to hit the road. Within 30 minutes of passing my test off I went to Milton Keynes, with my mate Jonathan, with the inention of impressing women. Oh how we live and learn. An hour after passing my test, I was pulled over by the local police for some over energetic use of my right foot and not looking like I was old enough to own a mountain bike, let alone a car. In the first month, I had a small rainforest worth of producers.

The garage the car was purchased from gave me a 12 month warranty, which in real terms meant nothing and was a good way of getting even more money out of me. Fix 1: The car overheated so the fan was linked to the ignition. Fix 2: The alarm wouldn’t stop going off so was unwired as it was more cost effective than fixing it.

By the end of the first month of driving, I had an incident with a very sturdy brown Vauxhall Chevette, which decided to get in my way after trying to drive around Wellingborough as if it was the Monaco street circuit. The garage quoted me £1200 to repair the car, but I decided to use some entrepreneurial locals, who charged me £350.

Car came back, looking as good as new, although the holes in the front frame were a tad worrying. By month three it was summer and the little XR3i had decided that my passengers needed their feet kept cool by the rainwater that came through a little hole in the floor. Then the alternator went, the starter motor had to be hit if I was on my own, or the car pushed by my friends. The following month the car developed a new metallic ticking sound at high speed.

My friends and I being the amazing car mechanics we were, ignored the noise. Month seven and the manifold fell off while driving down the M1. By the eighth month of owndership the front wheel fell off while driving back from college, and by month nine the pristine white body started to develop brown shades around all the sills and valance and wings.

The MOT arrived and the garage quoted £1500, so again the local entrepreneurs welded in a new floor and it was all done for £400. I then moved to Canada and left the car sat on my driveway , before my Auntie decided to sell it. Various stories in the next six months made their way over the Atlantic to me, including such gems as it was raced around by various people, found in a ditch at one point and finally, still registered in my name, used for a bank job as a getaway car in Northampton.

So what did I learn from this experience. Fords are not always great cars, or at least ropey 80s XR3is certainly aren’t. Girls, did not think an XR3i was cool, no matter how much I though they did, although it did make me a popular taxi at college.

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tastyturbo

Original Poster:

26 posts

229 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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This is the harshest story of the 3i I've ever heard.

I still have, amongst others, a mk3 xr3i. I had bought it as a runner about 8 years ago whilt my s2 turbo was undergoing major work. I then decided the 3i was too good to scrap and handed it over to a bodyshop for everyhthing it could possibly need. It passed it's mot needing only a broken spring replaced, (which I had always known was broken due to the 'pung' on full lock) and the back brakes stripped and cleaned.

I ran the car for a year and have had it stored ever since.

I LOVE MK3 ESCORTS !

varsas

4,030 posts

208 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Sounds like it had done more like 250k miles to me!

dpbird90

5,535 posts

196 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Shame, it's a great car. £1100 for insurance sounds VERY cheap considering what the car is, my first year of TPFT for the Fiat Seicento 1.1 was about that, so you got off lightly!

These days I know, a flash car is not really very good if you want to pull girls.

Kitchski

6,525 posts

237 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Thing is starters and alternators are wear and tear items, expect to replace them on older cars!

Wheel falling off....well I imagine you and your mates chose to ignore the humming coming from that wheel, just like the manifold leak laugh

Agreed, not much you could do about the rust catching you on one of them, but I would still have the Escort over a Golf. I know the Escort was flawed as most early hot hatch attempts were, and certainly the Golf wasn't perfect, but I'd go against the common grain of the dub and go for the XR3i anyday just like you.

These first car things do make good reading though, keep 'em comin!

K50 DEL

9,333 posts

234 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I bought an '87 Mk4 XR3i Cabriolet when I was 18

I couldn't afford it, it was more filler than metal but god it looked good and I felt like $1m driving it.

The roof was rarely up (mainly because it had so many holes it was largely useless)
The gearbox was like stirring soup
The seats had sagged and and the alarm system had a mind of its own

But god I loved it, I'd have another one tomorrow.

Thankfully it was in '95 and the insurance was only 500 a year

Ended up swapping it for an XJ6 as I couldn't afford the repairs it needed! oops

joz8968

1,042 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I've got a genuine soft spot for these. Especially in the Ford brochure's 'Sunburst Red' (as in the pic)... I had one in that hue as a temporary runaround (after someone wrote off my 'Grale).

They have very amusing - but safe and predictable - handling. It was all rock hard springing - not much finesse - but suited the 'typical' XR3i driver perfectly lol. You can get them at ludicrous angles in roundabouts, due to the fact that the huge understeer scrubs off most of the speed like a b'stard (so it all unfolds relatively slowly lol).

When ragging the crap out of it though, that 1.6 CVH engine suffered terribly with oil-draining away from the heads and awful valve-bounce!

I know that the carb'd XR3 was 96bhp/98lb ft (fitted in the Mk.2 XR2 too) and that the XR3i was 105bhp... but was the torque still 98lb ft (can't remember)?

I'd love to own a totally original, near-concours one in the Sunburst...

P.S. Of course, even more desirable at the time, was the rare as hen's teeth RS1600i, with the 'RS1600i' and striped bonnet black vinyl graphics, plus the twin-coil ignition. Anyone know the bhp/lb ft of these?

Edited by joz8968 on Monday 24th November 18:12

life-in-old-dog

95 posts

192 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Good story David - and how jealous am I - a five year old XR3i as your first car aged 16/7?? Did your Dad own VAG then?!

My wife once owned an XR2 and it was really good. My brothers friends had XR3s at the time and there wasn't that much between them, although we all agreed that after the Mk 1 Golf GTI VW rather lost the plot, hence Astra GTEs and the like, so a good choice but in white?? Hmmm, Chavtastic!!

Happy days..............

Now then you young tigers, my parents first vehicle was a motorbike and watsonian 2 seater sidecar, a Panther 900 single cylinder no less and my mum's heels had made a hole in the front footwell so at speed [a relative term of course!] we were colder than my poor Dad outside! Weekends were spent house hunting in the countryside and on one occasssion a side window [perspex] blew in over Banstead downs [now the 'Mad Mile'], my Mum screamed and I did what all little boys do when scared - not a nice journey home I can tell you. Then on another occassion I was standing on the seat with my head out of the sunroof [canvas webasto type thing] when Dad executed a u-turn outside East Croydon station, I lurched to the side and sat on the door handle which functioned as designed, resulting in one spectacular forward roll from yours truly over the road and onto the pavement, landing at the feet of a bemused old lady. I hadn't noticed the white Commer van which had nearly decapitated me, so could not understand why my dad was a jibbering ashen wreck.

The Combination [as they used to be called] got written off whilst parked outside our flat in London, after which the parents bought a black Ford Poplar, we moved to Sutton and then an A35 replaced it to celebrate the arrival of brother, so you can see how I became a p'her [um no - Ed]

205gtinut

957 posts

203 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Lol, great story - love it. I too owned an xr3i, it was an F reg in mercury grey and I also thought I was too cool for skool. Although it was my 3rd car, wasn't lucky enough to have a car like that as my first!! My mate had a mint XR2i as his first car, jammy bd!!!

dg45

43 posts

198 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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fond memories of xr3i's and rs turbo's ,had a b reg in '85 as first car ,could fill up with petrol for 15 quid,£200 insurance ,no speed camera's and about half as many cars on the road as today .....happy days!!!

the_hood

773 posts

200 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I loved XR3's when they were launched. They had a sporty look which made the Golf look staid. I've never owned or driven one, although many years later my cousin had an XR3 Convertible, which was great during the few summer months he had it for.

sniff diesel

13,111 posts

218 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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I had a MK4 XR3i in red with dog leg alloys as my first car in 1998, it too had a CD player (was rare then - must have been even rarer in 1991!) Insurance was going to be £4000 on my own, or £2000 with my Dad fronting yikes

Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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so you think fords made ropey cars or was it more a case of you Donald Ducked it by having mechanical sympathy of a Kwik fit fitter?

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

196 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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joz8968 said:
P.S. Of course, even more desirable at the time, was the rare as hen's teeth RS1600i, with the 'RS1600i' and striped bonnet black vinyl graphics, plus the twin-coil ignition. Anyone know the bhp/lb ft of these?

Edited by joz8968 on Monday 24th November 18:12
They had 115bhp, not sure of the lb/ft though. Nice cars but I never understood the premium prices over the xr3i.

I had a mk3 xr3i as my third car and I loved it to bits. it was one of the first injection models (registered Oct. 82 I think). I spent a fortune getting it sorted. Recon. gearbox, new clutch, shocks, complete exhaust including manifold etc. It was one tired puppy when I got it. Alas I ran out of money in the end and had to sell it. I thought it needed a top end rebuild at the time. I realised after it was just the valve stem seals that were shot, could have sorted them for £25. Doh!

If I knew then what I know now

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

201 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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useyourdellusion said:
(About RS1600i) Nice cars but I never understood the premium prices over the xr3i.
Superior car so you would expect to pay a premium. No?

Darkslider

3,075 posts

195 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Classic story - of a newly passed numpty ruining a half decent car with mechanical ineptitude smile

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

196 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Nolar Dog said:
useyourdellusion said:
(About RS1600i) Nice cars but I never understood the premium prices over the xr3i.
Superior car so you would expect to pay a premium. No?
They were about a third more expensive on the used market. I just didn't think they warranted it at the time.

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

201 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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useyourdellusion said:
They were about a third more expensive on the used market. I just didn't think they warranted it at the time.
You should see the price difference now. wink

Shropshiremike

23,496 posts

209 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Nolar Dog said:
useyourdellusion said:
They were about a third more expensive on the used market. I just didn't think they warranted it at the time.
You should see the price difference now. wink
One of my mates had the RS1600i - quite a few different bits compared to the XR. Lovely Scheel seats - did used to bounce around a bit over the bumps though on the local B-roads


tastyturbo

Original Poster:

26 posts

229 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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joz8968 said:
I've got a genuine soft spot for these. Especially in the Ford brochure's 'Sunburst Red' (as in the pic)... I had one in that hue as a temporary runaround (after someone wrote off my 'Grale).

They have very amusing - but safe and predictable - handling. It was all rock hard springing - not much finesse - but suited the 'typical' XR3i driver perfectly lol. You can get them at ludicrous angles in roundabouts, due to the fact that the huge understeer scrubs off most of the speed like a b'stard (so it all unfolds relatively slowly lol).

When ragging the crap out of it though, that 1.6 CVH engine suffered terribly with oil-draining away from the heads and awful valve-bounce!

I know that the carb'd XR3 was 96bhp/98lb ft (fitted in the Mk.2 XR2 too) and that the XR3i was 105bhp... but was the torque still 98lb ft (can't remember)?

I'd love to own a totally original, near-concours one in the Sunburst...

P.S. Of course, even more desirable at the time, was the rare as hen's teeth RS1600i, with the 'RS1600i' and striped bonnet black vinyl graphics, plus the twin-coil ignition. Anyone know the bhp/lb ft of these?

Edited by joz8968 on Monday 24th November 18:12
Never posted a pic up before so not sure if this will work but here is my rs16ooi.... in a ford showroom and one of our rs meets that we managed to blag a dealership for the nite..




H22K

182 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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dpbird90 said:
Shame, it's a great car. £1100 for insurance sounds VERY cheap considering what the car is, my first year of TPFT for the Fiat Seicento 1.1 was about that, so you got off lightly!

These days I know, a flash car is not really very good if you want to pull girls.
point 1:
1100 certainly wasn't cheap 18 years ago.

point 2:
actually it is. Wait until you get one :-)