Is Classic and Sports Car the most interesting UK magazine

Is Classic and Sports Car the most interesting UK magazine

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900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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aarondrs said:
The dealer is a socialist and ex trade unionist and refuses to believe in the supply and demand theory. When he draws his supply and demand curves they look completely parallel. Thus, put up price more demand and put up cost of labour, more jobs.
Nah, the dealer is an opportunist in the ultra-capitalist world who knows that his target audience won't take a product seriously if it's not hideously expensive, and realised he'd made a mistake by pricing this particular car at a rather plebeian level first time 'round. wink

evenflow

8,788 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Octane subscriber here. A very interesting read, I love the contributors, adverts for rare exotica, automobilia and articles on related items such as watches and luger pistols (!).

Also subscribe to Autocar, a great weekly that can be digested in under an hour. Used to subscribe to Evo as well, but for a monthly it just didn't stack up (as Loony said).

JuniorD

8,626 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I've a complete collection of C&S from the first edition up until 1990 and after that I've only bought it when there was something of specific interest to me. It would appear that everything has been done at least once and many cars are featured time and time again. It almost feels that everything that can be said has been said and the number of classic cars has been exhausted.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce

aarondrs

649 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Is that the January edition (out at the beginning of December) of the February issue (out at the beginning of January).

Look forward to reading that. I seem to remember that Practical Classics did a recent story on the RR 2 doors.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I'm in the Feb 2010 issue, out sometime in January smile

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Garlick said:
I'm in the Feb 2010 issue, out sometime in January smile
Look forward to that thumbup

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Are they in the same office building as PH? And if so, were they short on material so just looked in the car park? wink


Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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ewenm said:
Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Are they in the same office building as PH? And if so, were they short on material so just looked in the car park? wink
Harsh, but fair hehe

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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JuniorD said:
I've a complete collection of C&S from the first edition up until 1990 and after that I've only bought it when there was something of specific interest to me. It would appear that everything has been done at least once and many cars are featured time and time again. It almost feels that everything that can be said has been said and the number of classic cars has been exhausted.
Not wanting to be rude - but how old are you? I'm finding C&SC getting more interesting as the cars I lusted after in my formative years are moving into the classic car scene (and conversely, the 'more=better' ethos of current production 'evo' cars over the past few years being at increasingly flagrant odds with the reaities of road driving, has moved the mag of the same name from the centre of my automotive media consumption to... well, not quite the fringe, but I can take or leave it now).

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Garlick said:
ewenm said:
Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Are they in the same office building as PH? And if so, were they short on material so just looked in the car park? wink
Harsh, but fair hehe
Is it the Readers Classics bit chap?

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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L100NYY said:
Garlick said:
ewenm said:
Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Are they in the same office building as PH? And if so, were they short on material so just looked in the car park? wink
Harsh, but fair hehe
Is it the Readers Classics bit chap?
yes indeed I am.

L100NYY

35,212 posts

243 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Garlick said:
L100NYY said:
Garlick said:
ewenm said:
Garlick said:
I feature in next months C&SC with my Range Rover - a full page too bounce
Are they in the same office building as PH? And if so, were they short on material so just looked in the car park? wink
Harsh, but fair hehe
Is it the Readers Classics bit chap?
yes indeed I am.
thumbup

daveco

4,126 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Octane's content is about 40% killer, 60% ads and filler. Still a good read though.

I find 'CAR' magazine to be the best on the market at the moment though I think the market needs a magazine that does both old and new with a mix of great cars from the last 20 years.
There should be head to heads between, for example a BMW 335 and an E34 M5 3.8, some left field content, and extended articles on the history of a marque or car.

aarondrs

649 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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900T-R said:
JuniorD said:
I've a complete collection of C&S from the first edition up until 1990 and after that I've only bought it when there was something of specific interest to me. It would appear that everything has been done at least once and many cars are featured time and time again. It almost feels that everything that can be said has been said and the number of classic cars has been exhausted.
Not wanting to be rude - but how old are you? I'm finding C&SC getting more interesting as the cars I lusted after in my formative years are moving into the classic car scene (and conversely, the 'more=better' ethos of current production 'evo' cars over the past few years being at increasingly flagrant odds with the reaities of road driving, has moved the mag of the same name from the centre of my automotive media consumption to... well, not quite the fringe, but I can take or leave it now).
I agree with you entirely. Features on the latest Audi, Ford, BMW and even Ferrari, Lambo etc leave me a little cold. I used to pour over articles about the latest and best and now can't be bothered. Some of this apathy is based on my own circumstances and that I cant afford the latest and best currently, the rest is based on the actual interest I don't have in the kind of vehicles being tested in terms of their beauty, engineering etc.

I can honestly say that with a 100k spare I would probably go to the classifieds of C&SC or PC rather than the Porsche/BMW/Ferrari/Lamb dealer.

aarondrs

649 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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daveco said:
Octane's content is about 40% killer, 60% ads and filler. Still a good read though.

I find 'CAR' magazine to be the best on the market at the moment though I think the market needs a magazine that does both old and new with a mix of great cars from the last 20 years.
There should be head to heads between, for example a BMW 335 and an E34 M5 3.8, some left field content, and extended articles on the history of a marque or car.
That would be a magazine worth reading.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Cool! Wanna buy the very first 2 years complete issues of C&SC in binders???? wink

JuniorD

8,626 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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aarondrs said:
900T-R said:
JuniorD said:
I've a complete collection of C&S from the first edition up until 1990 and after that I've only bought it when there was something of specific interest to me. It would appear that everything has been done at least once and many cars are featured time and time again. It almost feels that everything that can be said has been said and the number of classic cars has been exhausted.
Not wanting to be rude - but how old are you? I'm finding C&SC getting more interesting as the cars I lusted after in my formative years are moving into the classic car scene (and conversely, the 'more=better' ethos of current production 'evo' cars over the past few years being at increasingly flagrant odds with the reaities of road driving, has moved the mag of the same name from the centre of my automotive media consumption to... well, not quite the fringe, but I can take or leave it now).
I agree with you entirely. Features on the latest Audi, Ford, BMW and even Ferrari, Lambo etc leave me a little cold. I used to pour over articles about the latest and best and now can't be bothered. Some of this apathy is based on my own circumstances and that I cant afford the latest and best currently, the rest is based on the actual interest I don't have in the kind of vehicles being tested in terms of their beauty, engineering etc.

I can honestly say that with a 100k spare I would probably go to the classifieds of C&SC or PC rather than the Porsche/BMW/Ferrari/Lamb dealer.
900T-R, you are not rude in asking - I'm 33. I was 5 or 6 when C&S started and my old man was buying them from day one. He stopped buying them and I took the collection in around 1990 when he felt that there was too much advertising (I actually enjoyed the advertisements - 1989-1990 is my favourite year in modern automotive history and would consider then as my formative years!) As you rightly say cars from these/our formative years are now moving into the classic car scene, however I would have read about them extensively in the current mags of the time - AutoCAR, Car, What Car, Road & Track... and so have no real desire to do so again in C&S. For me C&S was all about reading up on exotic cars from the previous generation. With that in mind I do however appreciate that today's C&S would be of great interest to someone of the generation after mine who was too young to read about exotic cars of the 1990s the first time round.


PompeyM3

1,847 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I started to sub to C&SC as well as Classic Cars this year mainly due to my interest in cars from the 70's, 80's and 90's. They're good for getting some history of a manufacturer and cars as well as the classifieds section. Yes, I also play that "If I won the lottery game" as well.... Which mostly means I pick a Ferrari F40.

There's a article about the Diablo this month, which must be one of the ultimate mad supercars ever. smile

Shropshiremike

23,225 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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aarondrs said:
daveco said:
Octane's content is about 40% killer, 60% ads and filler. Still a good read though.

I find 'CAR' magazine to be the best on the market at the moment though I think the market needs a magazine that does both old and new with a mix of great cars from the last 20 years.
There should be head to heads between, for example a BMW 335 and an E34 M5 3.8, some left field content, and extended articles on the history of a marque or car.
That would be a magazine worth reading.
Performance Car in the early 90s did a few of these type of tests - older Merc 190E 2.5-16 against brand new sporty saloons like the Vento Vr6 etc......older 911 Carrera against new Calibra Turbo 4x4 and 220 Turbo coupe etc etc