Climate control rant
Discussion
So many people just don't understand thermostats, whether it is on their car, the central heating, or the oven.
Take setting an oven to say 180, any normal rational person will set the dial to 180, the oven will get to 180 and hold. But there are a group of people that think that if you turn the dial up full to 250, it will get to 180 quicker. These people do exactly the same with their cars heater, or the central heating controller at home too. If they come home to a cold house, and they want the house at 22 degrees, they think wacking it up to full will get it to 22 faster.
Their is a word for these people, the word is STUPID.
Take setting an oven to say 180, any normal rational person will set the dial to 180, the oven will get to 180 and hold. But there are a group of people that think that if you turn the dial up full to 250, it will get to 180 quicker. These people do exactly the same with their cars heater, or the central heating controller at home too. If they come home to a cold house, and they want the house at 22 degrees, they think wacking it up to full will get it to 22 faster.
Their is a word for these people, the word is STUPID.
Edited by Balmoral Green on Wednesday 10th February 19:36
The climate control in the civic is OK, but it varies on time of year, i.e. in the winter, set it at 20 on auto and forget, but in the summer the sun warms the dark dash, and so you get a lot of radiated heat from the dash that isn't reflected in the air temp. So you need to set it cooler in summer to get around the radiant heat from the dash.
Balmoral Green said:
So many people just don't understand thermostats, whether it is on their car, the central heating, or the oven.
Take setting an oven to say 180, any normal rational person will set the dial to 180, the oven will get to 180 and hold. But there are a group of people that think that if you turn the dial up full to 250, it will get to 180 quicker. These people do exactly the same with their cars heater, or the central heating controller at home too. If they come home to a cold house, and they want the house at 22 degrees, they think wacking it up to full will get it to 22 faster.
Their is a word for these people, the word is STUPID.
You must know my wife and all the women in my office!Take setting an oven to say 180, any normal rational person will set the dial to 180, the oven will get to 180 and hold. But there are a group of people that think that if you turn the dial up full to 250, it will get to 180 quicker. These people do exactly the same with their cars heater, or the central heating controller at home too. If they come home to a cold house, and they want the house at 22 degrees, they think wacking it up to full will get it to 22 faster.
Their is a word for these people, the word is STUPID.
I'm fussy when it comes to in car heating etc. I actually prefer in extreme temperatures for the heat to be kept within the engine rather than trying to heat the cab until normal operating temperature has been achieved.
I don't have climate control and I'm sure a few will have a problem with this but I never have the dial set to hot until the engine has reached operating temperature and then find a suitable equilibrium as a general rule.
I have got into cars first thing in the morning where the owners switch the ignition on, it's -10 outside and then turn the heat dial to max and the fan to clear windows, I argue that it will not heat up quicker if cold air is being dragged through a cold matrix that is trying to get warm.
It's my understanding (in non fancy climate controlled cars) that the heater matrix is where the heat for the cabin comes from and this is heated by the circulation of coolant around the engine block which effectively has to be running long enough to heat the coolant before you will feel the benefit.
In climate controlled cars does the heat come from the matrix or is it heated electrically until the engine is providing the matrix with hot water, because if it isn't I'd be doing my own thing with the controls until I think the engine is warm enough to switch the climate control on?
I don't have climate control and I'm sure a few will have a problem with this but I never have the dial set to hot until the engine has reached operating temperature and then find a suitable equilibrium as a general rule.
I have got into cars first thing in the morning where the owners switch the ignition on, it's -10 outside and then turn the heat dial to max and the fan to clear windows, I argue that it will not heat up quicker if cold air is being dragged through a cold matrix that is trying to get warm.
It's my understanding (in non fancy climate controlled cars) that the heater matrix is where the heat for the cabin comes from and this is heated by the circulation of coolant around the engine block which effectively has to be running long enough to heat the coolant before you will feel the benefit.
In climate controlled cars does the heat come from the matrix or is it heated electrically until the engine is providing the matrix with hot water, because if it isn't I'd be doing my own thing with the controls until I think the engine is warm enough to switch the climate control on?
sy534534 said:
OMG! My dad is the worst for this. He cannot grasp the basics of climate control, heater on full blast set at 28c for twenty minutes until everyone in the car has started to cook, then someone wil pipe up about the heat and dad will set it to 12c for twenty minutes! Repeat until everyone feels sick. I've explained the system to him but he preferes to control it himself!
My Mum is exactly the same, I've explained it so many times. The Range Rover's system isn't perfect, but all you need to do is set the temperature and then tweak the face vent setting every now and again. With her it's up, down, up, down, off, full blast... etcmines set to around 19 and i only ever vary it by a degreee or two depending on how im feeling
oddly if its hot outside i set the ac a little cooler and if its cold outside a little warmer.
I find on a long journey I'll probably vary it up and down a little but only by a degree or so at a time...
And I leave the cc on all the time on full auto summer or winter hardly ever turn it off
oddly if its hot outside i set the ac a little cooler and if its cold outside a little warmer.
I find on a long journey I'll probably vary it up and down a little but only by a degree or so at a time...
And I leave the cc on all the time on full auto summer or winter hardly ever turn it off
I don't think I've ever seen my dad use his ac. I set the temperature controls to 18 and 28 a few weeks back, and they're still there with the dial in the OFF position.
I have to be honest, I move my ac controls around a bit. In the morning I whack the fans up to full (temperature stays st 22) and when the car warms up I stick it on auto so it doesn't have to blast hot/cold/hot/cold air to maintain temperature.
Move the temperature around depending on sunlight - if it's raining it stays at 22, whereas if the sun is beaming and I can feel the warmth, I'll turn it down a bit. Although I have to admit on a motorway journey with the ac set to a pleasant 22auto, if I have a smoke I'll turn the ac off and open the windows, then finish and turn the ac up to 25 for a bit as it's freeeeezing outside.
I have to be honest, I move my ac controls around a bit. In the morning I whack the fans up to full (temperature stays st 22) and when the car warms up I stick it on auto so it doesn't have to blast hot/cold/hot/cold air to maintain temperature.
Move the temperature around depending on sunlight - if it's raining it stays at 22, whereas if the sun is beaming and I can feel the warmth, I'll turn it down a bit. Although I have to admit on a motorway journey with the ac set to a pleasant 22auto, if I have a smoke I'll turn the ac off and open the windows, then finish and turn the ac up to 25 for a bit as it's freeeeezing outside.
Torquey said:
Even without climate control, anyone who moves the fan to less than 1 deserves a shouting at.
You've not heard the squeaky fan in my 944. If set to 3 (full) it doesn't squeak but is just generally noisy, 1 and 2 squeak whilst pushing out a pitiful amount of air and off is for when it's pissing you off.As for climate control I just set mine to 17 and auto. On wet days I sometimes have to tell it to demist the windscreen as for some reason they managed to design the system in such a way that it kindly mists up the windscreen for you. They're clever chaps at VW you see.
madrob6 said:
Torquey said:
Even without climate control, anyone who moves the fan to less than 1 deserves a shouting at.
You've not heard the squeaky fan in my 944. If set to 3 (full) it doesn't squeak but is just generally noisy, 1 and 2 squeak whilst pushing out a pitiful amount of air and off is for when it's pissing you off.Previously I would just get roasted with it stuck on full heat... opening the windows would only increase the flow of hot air from the vents.
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