Porsche 996 - Why so cheap?

Porsche 996 - Why so cheap?

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Bonefish Blues

26,815 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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I'd have another one in a heartbeat - early GT3s in particular are looking like stonking value at the moment, aren't they?

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Driving my 3.2 Carrera to work this morning and saw a couple off 996's and a 997.

From te back as approaching they're hard to distinguish between the two.

I actually think with the right set of wheels and ride height the 996 isn't a bad looking car. I'd still take it over most other euro boxes on te road.

Funny I also saw a nice early Boxster yesterday.

Maybe the design will grow on us with age.

Olivera

7,155 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Bonefish Blues said:
I'd have another one in a heartbeat - early GT3s in particular are looking like stonking value at the moment, aren't they?
They do look good value, but on the other hand 10 years and many track miles might be hiding a multitude of problems.

Bonefish Blues

26,815 posts

224 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Olivera said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I'd have another one in a heartbeat - early GT3s in particular are looking like stonking value at the moment, aren't they?
They do look good value, but on the other hand 10 years and many track miles might be hiding a multitude of problems.
Agree - history & homework would be vital, but assuming all's right, a huge amount of car, engine, pukka rose joints etc smile

adycav

7,615 posts

218 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Mr Gaga said:
And then I found this baby...



http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1325483.htm

That is good value! £34k, wow!
Hmmm.

Not the greatest of dealers in my experience. Rang ahead and arranged to look at two 996s (C2 and C4) last year prior to buying my Z4M. Arrived at dealership, noticed overall slight tattiness of the two cars. Wasn't given a test drive because this entailed moving some cars outside to get the 911s out and it looked like it might rain.

The had a silver GT3 in at the time, it may have even been the same one. It looked suspect under the bright showroom lights, the bonnet looked like it wasn't sitting properly.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?
That's all well and good until you want to sell it, the three main things being the colour, the interior and the gearbox. The rest isn't much of an issue and condition & history would be paramount over xenons and electric seats although some people place more importance on the satnav than others would.
Absolutely, but I think if it's priced right then it will sell regardless. Unless it's some tiptronic, mint-green interiored monstrosity!

Mind you if it were cheap enough I'd still be tempted - you can get some lovely seat covers in Halfords these days biggrin

old No 1

362 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Just bought one for a good price and put 1500miles in a month....
So far 28.8 to the gallon (mainly motorway granted)and reasonably practical everyday although the heavy snow meant I had to bail out and leave her one morning after a night out in leeds....but then all the FWD cars got stuck on the same hill in Barnsley too !

Not the grestest interier with circa 1978 escort bakerlite switchgear but hey ho its flash for the cash and nobody believes its 13k worth when they spend 15k plus on a mundaneo, although my hopes of a raise are out as my boss thinks I sell crack after work to afford it

I will do all the routine maintainance myself such as discs pads wishbones (commen problem) and will do the oil as well but take it for a 'service stamp' at an indi to keep some value, plus the £300-500 a year for thier expertise will hopefully give me an indication of whats on its way out so I can keep on top of stuff.

And to be fair if you google any car and look at the 'problems' every marque will have its fair share, I looked at R.Rovers, ste ...Maserati 3200, ste... S2000 ste....TVR ste....etc etc all cars have problems a 996 has plenty but can be as (un)reliable as every other car

PT

Risotto

3,928 posts

213 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?
That's all well and good until you want to sell it, the three main things being the colour, the interior and the gearbox. The rest isn't much of an issue and condition & history would be paramount over xenons and electric seats although some people place more importance on the satnav than others would.
I don't know what you mean, I'm sure the seller of this magnificent example will be swamped with buyers...



hehe

Targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Risotto said:
Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?
That's all well and good until you want to sell it, the three main things being the colour, the interior and the gearbox. The rest isn't much of an issue and condition & history would be paramount over xenons and electric seats although some people place more importance on the satnav than others would.
I don't know what you mean, I'm sure the seller of this magnificent example will be swamped with buyers...



hehe
While ghastly, that colour combo kind of works on that yellow car. Not my style though.

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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All that lairy colour, yet a proper black steering wheel? With some Stutgart interiors, it's the colour coded steering wheels that I find most objectionable, even if I could have potentially lived with the interior seat / carpet / door card colours.

WHY????


Chris_w666

22,655 posts

200 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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mat205125 said:
All that lairy colour, yet a proper black steering wheel? With some Stutgart interiors, it's the colour coded steering wheels that I find most objectionable, even if I could have potentially lived with the interior seat / carpet / door card colours.

WHY????

I like that.

Targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Agreed, I can't stand colour coded steering wheels (the bit you hold that it).

Was the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.

marlinmunro

3,053 posts

206 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Can not be arse*d to read all the posts, so sorry if already mentioned. Nothing wrong with the 996 except the headlights and front view, change these and it looks like pork again biggrin

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Targarama said:
Agreed, I can't stand colour coded steering wheels (the bit you hold that it).

Was the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.
mine's leathered, well the entire dash and centre console is leathered in black which does make it look better

saying that the 996 interior is pretty dire so anything will improve it

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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I know, I've had three 993s back to back wink

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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My eyes! The Germans must be stopped by EU law from attempting interior colour schemes. To think cows dies for THAT!

Mr Gaga

1,044 posts

210 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Globulator

13,841 posts

232 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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markmullen said:
996s are much better than people make out.

Sure, some people have engine issues but it is not as common as people would make out, the simple fact is that Porsche made many many more 996s than they had ever made 993s or 964s or 3.2s and as such more are likely to have problems. They drive well, look nice, are bloody good value for a £60k+ car and will find their money, just as 3.2s have, 964s have etc.
I'd like the GT3 and Turbo, but I am afraid of buying any 996, 997, 986 or 987 because of that engine. It's not the rear main seal leaks - its the small but devastating chance of the engine suddenly needing to be replaced. I.e. Intermediate shaft or cylinder wall/head failure.

Sure I could use Hartech's warranty, but he's an awfully long way away from where I live! So I'm one less customer on the demand side. This issue has already been factored into the resale values - another reason why they are cheaper.

I predict the latest 2010 engines (being a completely different design) will hold their value rather better as long as they are fault free, but if you get an engine warranty that works the 996 looks like a great car to me.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Blast fromthe past!

wavey

Globulator

13,841 posts

232 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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sleep envy said:
Blast from the past!

wavey
Hiya! biggrin