Porsche 996 - Why so cheap?
Discussion
Driving my 3.2 Carrera to work this morning and saw a couple off 996's and a 997.
From te back as approaching they're hard to distinguish between the two.
I actually think with the right set of wheels and ride height the 996 isn't a bad looking car. I'd still take it over most other euro boxes on te road.
Funny I also saw a nice early Boxster yesterday.
Maybe the design will grow on us with age.
From te back as approaching they're hard to distinguish between the two.
I actually think with the right set of wheels and ride height the 996 isn't a bad looking car. I'd still take it over most other euro boxes on te road.
Funny I also saw a nice early Boxster yesterday.
Maybe the design will grow on us with age.
Olivera said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I'd have another one in a heartbeat - early GT3s in particular are looking like stonking value at the moment, aren't they?
They do look good value, but on the other hand 10 years and many track miles might be hiding a multitude of problems.Mr Gaga said:
And then I found this baby...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1325483.htm
That is good value! £34k, wow!
Hmmm.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1325483.htm
That is good value! £34k, wow!
Not the greatest of dealers in my experience. Rang ahead and arranged to look at two 996s (C2 and C4) last year prior to buying my Z4M. Arrived at dealership, noticed overall slight tattiness of the two cars. Wasn't given a test drive because this entailed moving some cars outside to get the 911s out and it looked like it might rain.
The had a silver GT3 in at the time, it may have even been the same one. It looked suspect under the bright showroom lights, the bonnet looked like it wasn't sitting properly.
Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?Mind you if it were cheap enough I'd still be tempted - you can get some lovely seat covers in Halfords these days
Just bought one for a good price and put 1500miles in a month....
So far 28.8 to the gallon (mainly motorway granted)and reasonably practical everyday although the heavy snow meant I had to bail out and leave her one morning after a night out in leeds....but then all the FWD cars got stuck on the same hill in Barnsley too !
Not the grestest interier with circa 1978 escort bakerlite switchgear but hey ho its flash for the cash and nobody believes its 13k worth when they spend 15k plus on a mundaneo, although my hopes of a raise are out as my boss thinks I sell crack after work to afford it
I will do all the routine maintainance myself such as discs pads wishbones (commen problem) and will do the oil as well but take it for a 'service stamp' at an indi to keep some value, plus the £300-500 a year for thier expertise will hopefully give me an indication of whats on its way out so I can keep on top of stuff.
And to be fair if you google any car and look at the 'problems' every marque will have its fair share, I looked at R.Rovers, ste ...Maserati 3200, ste... S2000 ste....TVR ste....etc etc all cars have problems a 996 has plenty but can be as (un)reliable as every other car
PT
So far 28.8 to the gallon (mainly motorway granted)and reasonably practical everyday although the heavy snow meant I had to bail out and leave her one morning after a night out in leeds....but then all the FWD cars got stuck on the same hill in Barnsley too !
Not the grestest interier with circa 1978 escort bakerlite switchgear but hey ho its flash for the cash and nobody believes its 13k worth when they spend 15k plus on a mundaneo, although my hopes of a raise are out as my boss thinks I sell crack after work to afford it
I will do all the routine maintainance myself such as discs pads wishbones (commen problem) and will do the oil as well but take it for a 'service stamp' at an indi to keep some value, plus the £300-500 a year for thier expertise will hopefully give me an indication of whats on its way out so I can keep on top of stuff.
And to be fair if you google any car and look at the 'problems' every marque will have its fair share, I looked at R.Rovers, ste ...Maserati 3200, ste... S2000 ste....TVR ste....etc etc all cars have problems a 996 has plenty but can be as (un)reliable as every other car
PT
Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?Risotto said:
Gaz. said:
Dooshbag said:
Bill Carr said:
Personally, if it were me I wouldn't give too much care to whether the car was a desirable colour/trim or not, as long as I liked it. A big stereo, built-in sat-nav, electrically-adjustable seats and xenon headlamps are all unneccessary fripperies. It's a sports car after all, it's there to be driven.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, the 'picky' buyers mean there are bargains to be had on standard cars, who needs the gadgets anyway ?Agreed, I can't stand colour coded steering wheels (the bit you hold that it).
Was the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.
Was the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.
Targarama said:
Agreed, I can't stand colour coded steering wheels (the bit you hold that it).
Was the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.
mine's leathered, well the entire dash and centre console is leathered in black which does make it look betterWas the complete interior panel recolouring expensive? (complete as in not just the dash top/centre console). One thing I hate about the 996 (and Boxster of the same generation) is the tatty black plastic central dash part - reminds me of cheap US rental cars. Having it in cream or another matching colour makes the interior look a lot nicer.
saying that the 996 interior is pretty dire so anything will improve it
markmullen said:
996s are much better than people make out.
Sure, some people have engine issues but it is not as common as people would make out, the simple fact is that Porsche made many many more 996s than they had ever made 993s or 964s or 3.2s and as such more are likely to have problems. They drive well, look nice, are bloody good value for a £60k+ car and will find their money, just as 3.2s have, 964s have etc.
I'd like the GT3 and Turbo, but I am afraid of buying any 996, 997, 986 or 987 because of that engine. It's not the rear main seal leaks - its the small but devastating chance of the engine suddenly needing to be replaced. I.e. Intermediate shaft or cylinder wall/head failure.Sure, some people have engine issues but it is not as common as people would make out, the simple fact is that Porsche made many many more 996s than they had ever made 993s or 964s or 3.2s and as such more are likely to have problems. They drive well, look nice, are bloody good value for a £60k+ car and will find their money, just as 3.2s have, 964s have etc.
Sure I could use Hartech's warranty, but he's an awfully long way away from where I live! So I'm one less customer on the demand side. This issue has already been factored into the resale values - another reason why they are cheaper.
I predict the latest 2010 engines (being a completely different design) will hold their value rather better as long as they are fault free, but if you get an engine warranty that works the 996 looks like a great car to me.
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