Is the Audi S4 the biggest performance bargain?
Discussion
Roan said:
Why would you bother with B6 S4s when you can have an E39 M5 for the same money, or indeed less? I didn't. Relatively speaking then, not a performance bargain IMHO.
The E39 is quite a bit older though and not as discreet. This is what I like about the S4, bar a couple of badges you'd never know!Roan said:
Why would you bother with B6 S4s when you can have an E39 M5 for the same money, or indeed less? I didn't. Relatively speaking then, not a performance bargain IMHO.
Reliability!The m5 is a great car but it has a tendency to eat its clutch if driven hard often enough. The s4 is very nearly bullet proof barring a radiator issue which there is a fix for.
thinfourth2 said:
11 grand for a lardy saloon car with the engine bolted in the bumper not a bargain and while fast it ain't a sports car
Exactly. Plus it will go wrong regularly and cost a fortune to repair. VAG spend all their money on interiors and marketing, so skimp on the mechanics.
k-ink said:
thinfourth2 said:
11 grand for a lardy saloon car with the engine bolted in the bumper not a bargain and while fast it ain't a sports car
Exactly. Plus it will go wrong regularly and cost a fortune to repair. VAG spend all their money on interiors and marketing, so skimp on the mechanics.
though they do make a damn good 2.0 diesel engine.& the S4 & a 4wd Audi is a comfortable, safe wagon. Audi don't do sporting saloons/coupes quite like BMW.
We've had one for about 4 years now and love it. Beautifully torquey V8, a very good auto 'box (with paddles if you want more entertainment) and a pretty nice interior.
Handling wise it's typical of Audi of that period and not sharp, but it's in keeping with the character of the car and it's not 'bad'. I really enjoy driving it. 4WD too which helps in the snow.
Tax is only two hundred odd quid and MPG aside, it's been pretty reasonable to run.
Handling wise it's typical of Audi of that period and not sharp, but it's in keeping with the character of the car and it's not 'bad'. I really enjoy driving it. 4WD too which helps in the snow.
Tax is only two hundred odd quid and MPG aside, it's been pretty reasonable to run.
Buy it for the engine alone - god i love that engine ...
anyway I digress, I don't care what clarksonnites say about Audi, the S4 in my opinion still has an understated coolness about it - A 2.0tdi A4 made to look like an S4? Well maybe Clarkson has a point with that one - I always think the S and RS Audi's rise above cock jibes anyway - much like many of the BMW M cars do
anyway I digress, I don't care what clarksonnites say about Audi, the S4 in my opinion still has an understated coolness about it - A 2.0tdi A4 made to look like an S4? Well maybe Clarkson has a point with that one - I always think the S and RS Audi's rise above cock jibes anyway - much like many of the BMW M cars do
PetrolTed said:
We've had one for about 4 years now and love it. Beautifully torquey V8, a very good auto 'box (with paddles if you want more entertainment) and a pretty nice interior.
Handling wise it's typical of Audi of that period and not sharp, but it's in keeping with the character of the car and it's not 'bad'. I really enjoy driving it. 4WD too which helps in the snow.
Tax is only two hundred odd quid and MPG aside, it's been pretty reasonable to run.
MPG will be irrelevant as I'll be doing less than 7000 miles a year. Way I see it the less miles I do the better the car I can get! I imagine the MPG is in the high teens?Handling wise it's typical of Audi of that period and not sharp, but it's in keeping with the character of the car and it's not 'bad'. I really enjoy driving it. 4WD too which helps in the snow.
Tax is only two hundred odd quid and MPG aside, it's been pretty reasonable to run.
I am on my iPhone waiting for my wife to come out if waitrose so will reply later, but I will say my 2005 S4 avant in manual guise was the worst car I have owned!
It fails in so many ways, just a completely pointless car.
The auto on the other hand address' nearly all of the issues apart from the almost scary amount of understeer, when people told me the engine was in front of the front axle I thought they were kidding, they wern't!!
It fails in so many ways, just a completely pointless car.
The auto on the other hand address' nearly all of the issues apart from the almost scary amount of understeer, when people told me the engine was in front of the front axle I thought they were kidding, they wern't!!
t955daytona said:
jazzybee said:
ALawson said:
Seeing as I am looking for an estate this is the closest to me.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
Tax will be £435 a year and can only go up!
Why would tax be £435? its pre March 23rd 2006 so should be more like £245 per year shoul'nt it?http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
Tax will be £435 a year and can only go up!
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=2597...
definitely £245 pre March 2006!!
Ok, I see its Bank K* so as you state £245, that means my ATR's tax will only go up £30 next year.
gizlaroc said:
I am on my iPhone waiting for my wife to come out if waitrose so will reply later, but I will say my 2005 S4 avant in manual guise was the worst car I have owned!
It fails in so many ways, just a completely pointless car.
The auto on the other hand address' nearly all of the issues apart from the almost scary amount of understeer, when people told me the engine was in front of the front axle I thought they were kidding, they wern't!!
There are ways around the understeer issues i am sure.As for k ink's comments what an idiot. I am not like honda or apple fanboys but do appreciate the build quality of audis. If as k ink claims he had one and it was disastrously unreliable then he had either bought a second hand unloved and abused version or a monday car. The s4 is very reliable aside from its known "issues" radiator tyre wear due to bad geometry wiper mech and i believe rear arb.It fails in so many ways, just a completely pointless car.
The auto on the other hand address' nearly all of the issues apart from the almost scary amount of understeer, when people told me the engine was in front of the front axle I thought they were kidding, they wern't!!
Otherwise rock solid and dirt cheap to run aside from fuel.The known issues are easily fixed permanently and at low cost.
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