Adrian Sutil

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toppstuff

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13,698 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Terrible performance in qualy yesterday. His much criticised team mate completely outpaced him.

Does he bring money?

How did he manage to come back to F1 when there seems to be so many other , better drivers out there?

I can't see him surviving to return next season. Or am I missing something?

Justaredbadge

37,068 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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He seems to be very highly rated compared to his performances.


I don't understand it myself. Apparently he has signed up for next year with FI.

Crafty_

13,298 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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As I understand it he is all but signed for next year.

For all the criticism of Di Resta he's done a better job this year in terms of points. IIRC Sutil was a bit wild at the start of the season tapping cars (including Di Resta?).

Sutil used to bring Medion money but I don't think he does any more.

Kinky

39,602 posts

270 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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He had his Medion cap on yesterday, during post-quali interviews; so Medion money must still be there. There's absolutely no way any driver would wear 'ex-sponsors' branding during a race weekend.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Capri Sun, Medion and a stunning g/f are what he brings....I am not so sure there is much to choose in performance though between the two drivers, which may be why the team have confirmed just him.

I do wonder whether a driver with even a relatively small amount of funding might take a seat there? That would open it up to anyone from Massa to Magnussen.

Stedman

7,228 posts

193 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Rumour has it that he'll bring a new sponsor next year, in the form of Dolphin food

Hub

6,444 posts

199 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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He seems a bit inconsistent. He's had a few good results, but am I right in thinking they were more to do with tyre strategy with fewer stops?

toppstuff

Original Poster:

13,698 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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F1 drivers in the main seem to have to live with the spotlight on their performance all the time.

Sutil seems exempt from this attention, pottering around in a display of profound mediocrity. No one talks about him or really challenges his right to be there.

It's strange.

Crafty_

13,298 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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He's never quite lived that down has he hehe

Someone elsewhere even suggested his girlfriend is a beard, which I thought was rather unkind !

The Hypno-Toad

12,293 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Isn't Daddy someone fairly high up in Mercedes?

Might be mistaken but I seem to remember that being mentioned a few years ago.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Isn't Daddy someone fairly high up in Mercedes?

Might be mistaken but I seem to remember that being mentioned a few years ago.
I thought he was a musician?

deadslow

8,014 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Compared to his team-mate he is crap. The end.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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deadslow said:
Compared to his team-mate he is crap. The end.
Not arguing with you there but that is truly damning. Imagine being compared unfavourably with someone who is, at best, pretty mediocre?

Kinky

39,602 posts

270 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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REALIST123 said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Isn't Daddy someone fairly high up in Mercedes?

Might be mistaken but I seem to remember that being mentioned a few years ago.
I thought he was a musician?
yes

He's a violinist. Don't think he's connected to Mercedes.

Vaud

50,650 posts

156 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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deadslow said:
Compared to his team-mate he is crap. The end.
Well that was a quality piece of analysis. Thanks for sharing.

Crafty_

13,298 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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REALIST123 said:
Not arguing with you there but that is truly damning. Imagine being compared unfavourably with someone who is, at best, pretty mediocre?
I think thats a bit harsh, neither Paul or Adrian are mediocre from what I see. Argumentative and a bit dour at times, but not mediocre.

deadslow

8,014 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Vaud said:
deadslow said:
Compared to his team-mate he is crap. The end.
Well that was a quality piece of analysis. Thanks for sharing.
no probs. Its the comparison that counts, dontcha know biglaugh

Moley RUFC

3,621 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Kinky said:
yes

He's a violinist. Don't think he's connected to Mercedes.
And personally I think his son is a pianist...

Some Gump

12,713 posts

187 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Fwiw, in my di resta thread i didn't say he was crap, i said he has an inexcusible lack of respect for his team and employer, that is a risk when he's been on a performance drought like he has been.

To be fair, i think they're both midfield drivers destined to be placed in a midfield team - likely to get top 10, but unlikely to get a podium spot. There are faster drivers that crash more, but if 5th or6th place is where you aspire to be, they're both a solid bet...

DanielSan

18,822 posts

168 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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I rate Sutil in the Heinz Harold Frentzen category, on his day in a decent car he'll bring in the odd storming performance but for the vast majority is just a consistent points scorer and generally brings solid performances, not outstanding but solid. IMO he'd be the perfect number 2 to Alonso at Ferrari.