London Grand Prix
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Eddie Jordan was briefly on Chris Evans's show on R2 this morning talking about the possibility of a London GP. He mentioned that a law would need to be changed to allow it to happen. There was no law preventing the Birmingham Super Prix and there is no law preventing rally stages from taking place on public roads, so what law would this be?
Being synical I think that this is really about a certain BE trying to curry favour at the highest levels just right now.
He will probably offer to throw in a few £million, but in the end, like every other GP, it just will not stack-up financially.
As Liam Burn rightly pointed out "there is no money"
He will probably offer to throw in a few £million, but in the end, like every other GP, it just will not stack-up financially.
As Liam Burn rightly pointed out "there is no money"
MitchT said:
Eddie Jordan was briefly on Chris Evans's show on R2 this morning talking about the possibility of a London GP. He mentioned that a law would need to be changed to allow it to happen. There was no law preventing the Birmingham Super Prix and there is no law preventing rally stages from taking place on public roads, so what law would this be?
Not so sure “stages” are run on public roads.*I remember a few years back in the days of the “proper” RAC Rally, they had to split stages in the Lake District (Grizedale 1 & 2I think) because a public Road split them – for the sake of about a quarter of a mile Stage end to the next Stage start.
(* in England)
I don't see this ever happening. . .I puzzles me why F1 appears to look for new venues when its clear the older Classic circuits would make better use of the money/energy that gets spent with these pipe dreams together with more routine investment.
You don't see premiership football clubs playing on your local park pitches, and to me a number of the circuits used are well overdue some cash to heighten the 'fan' experience
You don't see premiership football clubs playing on your local park pitches, and to me a number of the circuits used are well overdue some cash to heighten the 'fan' experience
paulyv said:
A little off-topic I concede, but I have yet to understand where this proposed Formula E track is supposed to run through London in 2015...I understand it is a street circuit so the same law would surely apply.
There are some strange anomalies on 'road ownership' in London. All the roads around Hyde Park, Buck' Palace etc are owned by the Crown (the Queen) who give permission for the public to use them - except for ceremonial reasons. Half of the roads on the Isle of Dogs are owned by a property company and the entire road network in and around the Olympic Park are owned by the company set up to run the Olympics and its legacy on the park. So, in theory, technically, these are private roads and none would fall under the current act and so able to hold races.PW said:
MitchT said:
There was no law preventing the Birmingham Super Prix and there is no law preventing rally stages from taking place on public roads, so what law would this be?
The law against racing on public roads, oddly enough.It requires an act of Parliament to allow road racing.
"the council forwarded the Birmingham Road Race Bill to Parliament on 29 November in 1984, the members of the Parliament approved the Birmingham Road Race Bill in April 1985 and where it was passed and received Royal Assent in October 1985."
Once again Bernie finds a way to keep the money printing carousel going.
So (with much media hype and positive spin for F1) Bernie "allows" London to put on a race, jacks up the fees (once again) which will this time probably be paid at least in part by a gullible Boris Johnson (cos it's good for London you know)
Meanwhile perfectly excellent and safe race circuits are left to die further in the country where F1 was actually born, and in a few years time Bernie (if he is still alive) will just get bored and demand another circuit in India, or Turkey, or Melbourne - or wherever some plank or stupid Government with big pockets and no sense - bribes him to move the ridiculous procession to them. London will get dropped just like India did and faster than you'd scrape doggie do-do off your shoe.
For f
k's safe Formula One is processional enough without having another street race... I absolutely despair at the stupidity of the people who keep outbidding each other to give Bernie money for this st. He only gives it to his fking spoiled daughters anyway...
So (with much media hype and positive spin for F1) Bernie "allows" London to put on a race, jacks up the fees (once again) which will this time probably be paid at least in part by a gullible Boris Johnson (cos it's good for London you know)
Meanwhile perfectly excellent and safe race circuits are left to die further in the country where F1 was actually born, and in a few years time Bernie (if he is still alive) will just get bored and demand another circuit in India, or Turkey, or Melbourne - or wherever some plank or stupid Government with big pockets and no sense - bribes him to move the ridiculous procession to them. London will get dropped just like India did and faster than you'd scrape doggie do-do off your shoe.
For f
k's safe Formula One is processional enough without having another street race... I absolutely despair at the stupidity of the people who keep outbidding each other to give Bernie money for this st. He only gives it to his fking spoiled daughters anyway...StevieBee said:
the entire road network in and around the Olympic Park are owned by the company set up to run the Olympics and its legacy on the park.
Which is where I believe Formula E plan to run.As for the rest of this non story, as pointed out the government is running a consultation on changing the law regarding street racing. This is a story of little interest to the average man in the street whose knowledge of motorsport starts and ends with F1. So how to spice up a fairly dull story? Ring Bernie Ecclestone and ask him if he'd like to run a London GP. Bernie knows the game and will give the right answers as will any other F1 talking head you can dig up.
About a decade ago the local paper in Stoke on Trent ran a frontpage headline about the possibility of a Grand Prix in the city. It was entirely a publicity stunt by a local nightclub but because they had got Bernie to say that he would be interested in running a GP in Stoke that was enough for the paper to run with it. Of course the reality is that Bernie simply knows it doesn't hurt to have F1 on the front page of any newspaper and people talking about.
A London GP is currently slightly more likely then a Stoke GP 10 years ago only because the law might be about to change and that is it.
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