Who's Toto Wolff?
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Leithen said:
FIA opens compliance investigation into potential Wolff conflict of interest
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
triggered Gammon in 3.....2.....1.....https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
Muzzer79 said:
HighwayStar said:
Muzzer79 said:
Bo_apex said:
Mercedes is open about the fact that they were so far ahead of the 2014 engine regulations that the FIA came to them for advise on what else to do with the engine. The regulations didn't just suit them, they were tailor made for them to the Nth degree.
Source? Back-up? Evidence?You've pedalled this line for years Sparta and never produced anything.
Let me guess - the info is out there and you expect me to go and find it to prove your assertion?
But they didn't influence the FIA as to spec any more than any other team, didn't have this huge head start and didn't have regs "tailor made" to them.
They just did a better job than Ferrari, Renault and, latterly, Honda.
Can you imagine Ferrari of all teams allowing another team to influence the rules ahead of them? As if!
Here we go:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/13878359
As you say, all teams try to influence regulation changes.
Bo_apex said:
Leithen said:
FIA opens compliance investigation into potential Wolff conflict of interest
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
triggered Gammon in 3.....2.....1.....https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
The FIA/F1 relationship reaches new depths…
Leithen said:
Bo_apex said:
Leithen said:
FIA opens compliance investigation into potential Wolff conflict of interest
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
triggered Gammon in 3.....2.....1.....https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-opens-compli...
The FIA/F1 relationship reaches new depths…
Bo_apex_nee_Sparta said:
Mercedes is open about the fact that they were so far ahead of the 2014 engine regulations that the FIA came to them for advise on what else to do with the engine. The regulations didn't just suit them, they were tailor made for them to the Nth degree.
Of course Mercedes then needed to do a secret test with Pirelli to get another helping hand on what the tyres would be like.
Not sure how Suzi being having access to restricted info in 2021 allowed Merc to gain any advantage forthe 2014 regs.Of course Mercedes then needed to do a secret test with Pirelli to get another helping hand on what the tyres would be like.
I'd advise you to seek advice before from an adult before posting.
I can understand the concern if Mrs W is privvy to restricted info. My personal opinion is that if it is correct then one or the other should not retain their position.
If it can be proven that Merc has been in receipt of this information before other teams, then there should be action taken. An extended period of disbarment from FIA motorsport perhaps?
If there's evidence of benefit, then that's a significantly more serious development, although there's been no suggestion of that, at least from any adult.
Dropped shoulders from Mr Wolff should not be considered as confirmation as that has been his normal stance for more than two seasons.
If it can be proven that Merc has been in receipt of this information before other teams, then there should be action taken. An extended period of disbarment from FIA motorsport perhaps?
If there's evidence of benefit, then that's a significantly more serious development, although there's been no suggestion of that, at least from any adult.
Dropped shoulders from Mr Wolff should not be considered as confirmation as that has been his normal stance for more than two seasons.
This is exactly why it was never a good idea to give a job heading a subsidiary within FOM's group of companies to someone with links to an active senior figure falling under FOM's control, especially the spouse of the someone who is a large shareholder, CEO & Team Principal of a team competing in one of the most significant series the group owns...
Toto would be throwing even bigger tantrums than he has had it been someone with such close & numerous links to RBR or TR/AT.
This is why it was never a good idea to hire Susie when it was announced. Whether or not information was divulged, the link allows it to be a reasonable question to ask. Brawn, Domenicali had to shed ties with their former teams before getting their FOM roles, so did Todt in his FIA role. They have all been accused of bias as a result of their former roles. Derek Warrick is a driver advisor to the FIA stewards and is accused of being biased because he owns a car dealership that sells Honda cars alongside over brands of cars, including Mercedes...
I mean, Toto Wolff has repeatedly come out with tid-bits of information that should have you questioning whether a party or parties is/are divulging information to him that he should not be privy to:
- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Those crying misogyny (how predictable!) are just trying to deflect from the fact that Toto has put his foot in it big style repeatedly and how questionable the links between Toto & Susie and both FOM & the FIA, both crucial parties in regards to F1.
The job offers she has been given are quite questionable, she literally can thank being Toto's wife for getting the development driver role & her FP1 outings within Williams that she wouldn't have got had Toto not been a shareholder. Her Formula E roles within Venturi doesn't help due to links to HWA Racelab that were responsible for Mercedes' DTM efforts & later became the Mercedes works Formula E Team.
Of course it being the FIA, it will be swept under the carpet & NDA's signed. Just like happened with the FIA attempted fix of the 2021 championship in favour of Hamilton that cost Masi his job, Mercedes' illegal tyre test & Ferrari's oil burning. The fact he has single-handedly brought the FIA into disrepute without so much as a wrist slap should be suspect!
Toto would be throwing even bigger tantrums than he has had it been someone with such close & numerous links to RBR or TR/AT.
This is why it was never a good idea to hire Susie when it was announced. Whether or not information was divulged, the link allows it to be a reasonable question to ask. Brawn, Domenicali had to shed ties with their former teams before getting their FOM roles, so did Todt in his FIA role. They have all been accused of bias as a result of their former roles. Derek Warrick is a driver advisor to the FIA stewards and is accused of being biased because he owns a car dealership that sells Honda cars alongside over brands of cars, including Mercedes...
I mean, Toto Wolff has repeatedly come out with tid-bits of information that should have you questioning whether a party or parties is/are divulging information to him that he should not be privy to:
- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Those crying misogyny (how predictable!) are just trying to deflect from the fact that Toto has put his foot in it big style repeatedly and how questionable the links between Toto & Susie and both FOM & the FIA, both crucial parties in regards to F1.
The job offers she has been given are quite questionable, she literally can thank being Toto's wife for getting the development driver role & her FP1 outings within Williams that she wouldn't have got had Toto not been a shareholder. Her Formula E roles within Venturi doesn't help due to links to HWA Racelab that were responsible for Mercedes' DTM efforts & later became the Mercedes works Formula E Team.
Of course it being the FIA, it will be swept under the carpet & NDA's signed. Just like happened with the FIA attempted fix of the 2021 championship in favour of Hamilton that cost Masi his job, Mercedes' illegal tyre test & Ferrari's oil burning. The fact he has single-handedly brought the FIA into disrepute without so much as a wrist slap should be suspect!
Edited by Peacockantony on Wednesday 6th December 01:45
Peacockantony said:
I mean, Toto Wolff has repeatedly come out with tid-bits of information that should have you questioning whether a party or parties is/are divulging information to him that he should not be privy to:
- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Mercedes were the ones asking if floor stays were permitted and the cost to produce was tiny, so why not have them ready if they think they're going to be approved?- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Edited by Peacockantony on Wednesday 6th December 01:45
You didn't hear the overly friendly radio messages from Horner to Masi in 2021 then.
Most reports put Binotto as the source of the leak, not Wolff.
Mrs Wolff is working for the F1 Academy so not involved in the day to say running of F1 and unlikely to have access to confidential information or the ability to influence rule changes.
Peacockantony said:
This is exactly why it was never a good idea to give a job heading a subsidiary within FOM's group of companies to someone with links to an active senior figure falling under FOM's control, especially the spouse of the someone who is a large shareholder, CEO & Team Principal of a team competing in one of the most significant series the group owns...
Toto would be throwing even bigger tantrums than he has had it been someone with such close & numerous links to RBR or TR/AT.
This is why it was never a good idea to hire Susie when it was announced. Whether or not information was divulged, the link allows it to be a reasonable question to ask. Brawn, Domenicali had to shed ties with their former teams before getting their FOM roles, so did Todt in his FIA role. They have all been accused of bias as a result of their former roles. Derek Warrick is a driver advisor to the FIA stewards and is accused of being biased because he owns a car dealership that sells Honda cars alongside over brands of cars, including Mercedes...
I mean, Toto Wolff has repeatedly come out with tid-bits of information that should have you questioning whether a party or parties is/are divulging information to him that he should not be privy to:
- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Those crying misogyny (how predictable!) are just trying to deflect from the fact that Toto has put his foot in it big style repeatedly and how questionable the links between Toto & Susie and both FOM & the FIA, both crucial parties in regards to F1.
The job offers she has been given are quite questionable, she literally can thank being Toto's wife for getting the development driver role & her FP1 outings within Williams that she wouldn't have got had Toto not been a shareholder. Her Formula E roles within Venturi doesn't help due to links to HWA Racelab that were responsible for Mercedes' DTM efforts & later became the Mercedes works Formula E Team.
Of course it being the FIA, it will be swept under the carpet & NDA's signed. Just like happened with the FIA attempted fix of the 2021 championship in favour of Hamilton that cost Masi his job, Mercedes' illegal tyre test & Ferrari's oil burning. The fact he has single-handedly brought the FIA into disrepute without so much as a wrist slap should be suspect!
That particular one went well. Toto would be throwing even bigger tantrums than he has had it been someone with such close & numerous links to RBR or TR/AT.
This is why it was never a good idea to hire Susie when it was announced. Whether or not information was divulged, the link allows it to be a reasonable question to ask. Brawn, Domenicali had to shed ties with their former teams before getting their FOM roles, so did Todt in his FIA role. They have all been accused of bias as a result of their former roles. Derek Warrick is a driver advisor to the FIA stewards and is accused of being biased because he owns a car dealership that sells Honda cars alongside over brands of cars, including Mercedes...
I mean, Toto Wolff has repeatedly come out with tid-bits of information that should have you questioning whether a party or parties is/are divulging information to him that he should not be privy to:
- Mercedes conveniently had a floor stay ready a very short time after the FIA ok'ed them, before any other team could prepare
- Toto's weirdly close relationship with Michael Masi, dinner dates in late 2021 with him, his overly friendly radio messages to Masi
- Supposedly knew about Red Bull's overspend before it was announced
- Shaila-Ann Rao getting a job within the FIA
- Mercedes being given a performance advantage in regards to their engines by limiting competitors developing their engines via the token system
Those crying misogyny (how predictable!) are just trying to deflect from the fact that Toto has put his foot in it big style repeatedly and how questionable the links between Toto & Susie and both FOM & the FIA, both crucial parties in regards to F1.
The job offers she has been given are quite questionable, she literally can thank being Toto's wife for getting the development driver role & her FP1 outings within Williams that she wouldn't have got had Toto not been a shareholder. Her Formula E roles within Venturi doesn't help due to links to HWA Racelab that were responsible for Mercedes' DTM efforts & later became the Mercedes works Formula E Team.
Of course it being the FIA, it will be swept under the carpet & NDA's signed. Just like happened with the FIA attempted fix of the 2021 championship in favour of Hamilton that cost Masi his job, Mercedes' illegal tyre test & Ferrari's oil burning. The fact he has single-handedly brought the FIA into disrepute without so much as a wrist slap should be suspect!
Edited by Peacockantony on Wednesday 6th December 01:45
Pflanzgarten said:
I’m not suggesting she has anything like the motorsport nouse as Suzi Wolf but if Geri Horner started getting roles with FOM or the FIA there’d have been more than eyebrows raised.
Are you seriously making that point? Susie Wolff has had a lifelong career in professional motorsport. She has been Team principal as well as CEO of a Formula E team and Managing Director of the F1 Academy series.
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