Change needed of Quali rules?

Change needed of Quali rules?

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MonkeyHanger

9,199 posts

243 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Any driver who has to back off due to a Yellow flag on their last flying lap in Q3 gets free tyre choice for the race start.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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zac510 said:
How about we just replace qualifying with a phone-in competition to put the most popular drivers that week at the top of the grid?
Quite.

thegreenhell

15,424 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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MonkeyHanger said:
Any driver who has to back off due to a Yellow flag on their last flying lap in Q3 gets a cuddle from Charlie Whiting and told it will all be alright next time, poor diddums.
EFA.

Some Gump

12,705 posts

187 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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It's fine the way it is.

Lewis had the choice to go out early and get a clean lap, or go out late for track evolution. The risk of a yellow increases with the reward of better track conditions, and knowing what you have to beat.

Alonso and raikkonen went early, which was spotted and commented on on the live coverage. Lewis gambled and lost. This is the same choice people have had for years and should continue.


Imo, if the roles had been reversed this thread wouldn't even exist.

slipstream 1985

12,246 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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lewis did have a point about 1 strategist for mercedes while at mclaren there was 1 for each driver trying to beat the other. Im sure that will be getting discussed.

Speedy11

518 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Some Gump said:
It's fine the way it is.

Lewis had the choice to go out early and get a clean lap, or go out late for track evolution. The risk of a yellow increases with the reward of better track conditions, and knowing what you have to beat.

Alonso and raikkonen went early, which was spotted and commented on on the live coverage. Lewis gambled and lost. This is the same choice people have had for years and should continue.


Imo, if the roles had been reversed this thread wouldn't even exist.
He didn't, it was Nico's choice who went 1st and 2nd and he chose for Lewis to go after him.

angrymoby

2,613 posts

179 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Yellows will always affect someone's quali lap, but rarely does a potential pole lap get ruined by yellows (seem to remember Alonso a few years ago?) ...even rarer that the potential pole sitter causes the yellows, so it's no wonder a few eyebrows have been raised.

Since 2006 you'd have thought the FIA would have tightened up the rules a bit ...as you can't really rely on fair play these days, especially as there are solutions in other formula's that prevent the potential abuse of the yellow flag regulations

ferraridriver007

9 posts

120 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Dunit said:
With the grid being compromised by flag situations in 2 of the 6 Races this season is it time for a rule change?
Funny enough Nicos lack of talent may well have helped Lewis in China as Daniel was on a very quick lap only to find a merc parked on the main straight.
At the moment its far to easy for a driver who has set a fair time to go all out for a Banzai lap knowing he is on a win win situation if spins.

So maybe if the drivers that affected by the same situations in future could have another run?
this sounds like a good idea
but i am against changing the rules all the time, year over year...

Jungles

3,587 posts

222 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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I'd much rather reduce the qualifying stints to two, with a shoot-out style for the second stint:
Q1 - 25 minutes, any tyres for the weekend, aiming to finish in the top ten.
Q2 - Shoot-out style for the top ten in reverse order from Q1 (ie. P10 to P1), two flying laps each.

And let the drivers start with any tyre choice for the race.

swisstoni

17,045 posts

280 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Dunit said:
One thing for certain all the drivers will making sure they get out on track before the No6 Mercedes in Canada.
Safety car may as well start rolling as soon as he goes out. hehe

The devil

2,125 posts

184 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Scrap qualifying and pull numbers from a hat for starting position

craigjm

17,964 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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The devil said:
Scrap qualifying and pull numbers from a hat for starting position
Shame they can't do that with the cars too so you get Hamilton in a Marussia one weekend and Vettel in a Caterham the next biggrin

troc

3,768 posts

176 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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slipstream 1985 said:
davepoth said:
I used to love the old style qualifying - one hour, 12 laps, ridiculous tyres, and a bit more strategy.
never return too that it was so boring
Naah, it was only boring for the first 57 minutes biggrin

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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rdjohn said:
Personally, I'd prefer to leave it as it is.

If we had to have a change, I would like to see a reverse (10- 1) Q2 shoot out with drivers starting at say 1 min intervals on flag-free track. I think this sort of approach could build the tension to fever pitch and each team / driver gets an equal amount of camera time.

It is only a thought.
Not a bad idea.

I always thought instead of the Q1/Q2/Q3 format, they could alter it to make it a shoot out for each place. There's only one qualifying session which starts with 5 mins or so for everyone to set a time, then every 2 mins the last position car at that time gets fixed and they're out.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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I'm assuming that after Rosberg's lap was affected by Hamilton's yellow flag we should be discussing this?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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miniman said:
rdjohn said:
Personally, I'd prefer to leave it as it is.

If we had to have a change, I would like to see a reverse (10- 1) Q2 shoot out with drivers starting at say 1 min intervals on flag-free track. I think this sort of approach could build the tension to fever pitch and each team / driver gets an equal amount of camera time.

It is only a thought.
Would be great, but would need consistent weather conditions for everyone I guess.
I guess you guys missed that we have had that, it was rubbish..