Newey extends Red Bull contract, but steps away from F1 team

[CraigyMc]

Justaredbadge said:

Derek Smith said:

I don't want to be a punctuation nazi, but Le Man's?

Autoincorrect. :/

FTFY

[CraigyMc]

Sexual Chocolate said:

Is it me or Neweys' voice really boring and monotone?

It sounds adenoidal to me, but yes I'm sure RBR didn't take him on for his abilities as a voice artist.

[fatbutt]

I see this as a great thing. As much as I've admired his engineering, his removal (partial or full) will allow the other teams a more even footing. Sooner or later another gifted engineer will come to the fore but in the meantime it'll have the effect the 2014 rules were set up to create.

[PeetBee]

Sound idea from RBR's perspective, stops him going to another F1 team.

When Newey left Williams, I'm sure Patrick Head said something along the lines of "the problem is not so much that we've lost him, it's that we'll have to compete against him"

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History repeats itself (then, 2001)...

Old Article said:

Newey might retire from F1 in 2002

McLaren technical director Adrian Newey has been the subject of most reports the past week after Jaguar Racing announced that they have secured his services for the 2002 season, only for McLaren to respond in turn that Newey will stay with them beyond the term of his current contract, which expires in August 2002.

According to reports on Autosport, the likelihood of Newey retiring from F1 in 2002 is not unlikely, with McLaren boss, Ron Dennis saying earlier in the week that Newey would be allowed to pursue alternative projects.

Sources have indicated that this might include designing a racing yacht with Ron Dennis believed to be of the opinion that if Adrian Newey is not designing F1 cars for the McLaren team, he will not be designing for any other team.

I tell you, Ferrari in 2016.

[andyps]

It does look like it is to stop him going anywhere else, although he has said how happy he is at Red Bull so could be part of his decision anyway.

Not sure about Le Mans though, I'm not sure the rules are any less restrictive than the ones in F1 - certainly seems that to win a hybrid is needed and one of the objections Newey has this year is the complication and weight of the hybrid elements.

[CraigyMc]

andyps said:

I'm not sure the rules are any less restrictive than the ones in F1 - certainly seems that to win a hybrid is needed and one of the objections Newey has this year is the complication and weight of the hybrid elements.

The Toyota TS-040 (3.7L V8 NA petrol + supercapacitor on rear axle) have been clearing up so far: two wins out of two in the WEC and fastest on the first Le Mans test day.

They are up against the Porsche 919 (2.0L V4 Petrol turbo) and the Audi R18's (3.7L V6 Turbo diesel).

All have different electrical storage capacities, different fuel capacities between petrol and diesel, somewhat different weights (down to 870kg this year, unlike F1 which is getting heavier year on year - 694 this, 701 next).

It's an interesting formula, and the Audi R18 has been winning awards left right and centre for a few years as a pinaccle of engineering.

I still think he's off to do something with sails though.

[rufusruffcutt]

I would like to see him design a road car. And what philosophy that might take.

[Justaredbadge]

rufusruffcutt said:

I would like to see him design a road car. And what philosophy that might take.

I wouldn't.

His speciality is aero. Road cars that are "aero cars" don't work at legal speeds. So you're back to a track car which may as well be a Le Mans type car. If he's doing that, do it to the regs and race it.

[Cyder]

CraigyMc said:

andyps said:

I'm not sure the rules are any less restrictive than the ones in F1 - certainly seems that to win a hybrid is needed and one of the objections Newey has this year is the complication and weight of the hybrid elements.

The Toyota TS-040 (3.7L V8 NA petrol + supercapacitor on rear axle) have been clearing up so far: two wins out of two in the WEC and fastest on the first Le Mans test day.

They are up against the Porsche 919 (2.0L V4 Petrol turbo) and the Audi R18's (3.7L V6 Turbo diesel).

All have different electrical storage capacities, different fuel capacities between petrol and diesel, somewhat different weights (down to 870kg this year, unlike F1 which is getting heavier year on year - 694 this, 701 next).

It's an interesting formula, and the Audi R18 has been winning awards left right and centre for a few years as a pinaccle of engineering.

I still think he's off to do something with sails though.

OK here's a left-field guess for you.

Red Bull -> Infiniti -> Nissan -> New LMP1 program announced for next year -> lots of engineering clout needed to beat Audi/Toyota/Porsche -> Newey.

I'm still betting on a Red Bull backed Austrian entry for America's Cup though.

[rufusruffcutt]

Justaredbadge said:

rufusruffcutt said:

I would like to see him design a road car. And what philosophy that might take.

I wouldn't.

His speciality is aero. Road cars that are "aero cars" don't work at legal speeds. So you're back to a track car which may as well be a Le Mans type car. If he's doing that, do it to the regs and race it.

You missed my point. What if Infiniti (or whoever) gave him a blank piece of paper? And said we'd like a road car please. Wouldn't you want to see what he would come up with? I know I would.

Please don't post a pic of the car Homer designed

[skinny]

well i am not close to giving any of my vital organs to own the city car that gordon murray designed.
(the Mclaren F1 on teh other hand...)

[AWRacing]

Ben Ainsley (of boating fame) has just hinted on breakfast news that Newey could be helping with the British entry for the Americas Cup.

[revrange]

Cyder said:

OK here's a left-field guess for you.

Red Bull -> Infiniti -> Nissan -> New LMP1 program announced for next year -> lots of engineering clout needed to beat Audi/Toyota/Porsche -> Newey.

I'm still betting on a Red Bull backed Austrian entry for America's Cup though.

British entry to America cup, British backers, but built at new red technology centre.

Le Mans entry as well, he has raced there. One thing to remember is AN isn't all about aero, he is about building fast racing cars. it so happens this in last 20 years been aero dominated. Remember the trick breaking system at Mclaren? Or seamless shift gear boxes? AN has brought into anything that can make his cars faster

[Inertiatic]

Do we know when this will come into affect? End of season?

[Derek Smith]

Justaredbadge said:

Derek Smith said:

I don't want to be a punctuation nazi, but Le Man's?

Autocorrect. :/

Should we have another name for punctuation nazi, where the criticism is a bit lighter? For instance, punctuation BNP? Or for something in between, nearly nazi but not quite, punctuation union movement?

[andygo]

Derek Smith said:

Should we have another name for punctuation nazi, where the criticism is a bit lighter? For instance, punctuation BNP? Or for something in between, nearly nazi but not quite, punctuation union movement?

Punctuation Plod?

[Disastrous]

I hope it's Americas Cup racing.

I'd love to see Red Bull finance a Team Red Bull UK entry designed by him and skippered by Ainslie. Can't think of anyone else with the financial clout to match Larry Ellison and I believe the raw talent is there.

[Durzel]

andyps said:

It does look like it is to stop him going anywhere else, although he has said how happy he is at Red Bull his wife is in the UK so could be part of his decision anyway.

FTFY

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revrange said:

Remember the trick breaking system at Mclaren?

I do. They broke almost every race and it cost Kimi a title at least.