****The Official Belgian (Spa) Grand Prix thread 2015****
Discussion
DanB7290 said:
I'll be going over with the OH, first GP for both of us after years of watching it on TV! Got general access, where's the best place to be?
You'll love it, we went the year Hamilton got taken out by Grosjean at the start 2/3 years ago? gutted as we went to see Hamilton!We did GA and for the race we did the bus stop chicane, we had to get there early( a few of them had little garden spades so you can dig your chair in as your perched on the hillside) but you get a great over view of the cars
Always remember this, Villeneuve and Zonta dared each other to go flat out at Eau Rouge, both stuffed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
I think Mclaren Honda would really really need to come to this one with some more power from somewhere, I cant see them being good enough on aero after the long high speed stuff to whip round other cars in the twisty bits. I'd expect Williams to put their cars 3rd and 4th, Ferraris 5th and 6th depending on what kind of mood Raikkonen's in. Also think Torro Rosso might hand Red Bull their arses at this track.
More interested to see how McLaren have progressed the car really, I hope they're not using Hungary as a benchmark of the cars progress, great though it was there wasnt as much merit as luck
What's the deal with the clutch starts for this race, same as Hungary or up to the driver now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
I think Mclaren Honda would really really need to come to this one with some more power from somewhere, I cant see them being good enough on aero after the long high speed stuff to whip round other cars in the twisty bits. I'd expect Williams to put their cars 3rd and 4th, Ferraris 5th and 6th depending on what kind of mood Raikkonen's in. Also think Torro Rosso might hand Red Bull their arses at this track.
More interested to see how McLaren have progressed the car really, I hope they're not using Hungary as a benchmark of the cars progress, great though it was there wasnt as much merit as luck
What's the deal with the clutch starts for this race, same as Hungary or up to the driver now?
andy-xr said:
Always remember this, Villeneuve and Zonta dared each other to go flat out at Eau Rouge, both stuffed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
If you look closely at Zontas accident. You'll see they even bothered to do the 1/2 and 1/2 "paint" job on the bottom of the front wing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
Munter said:
andy-xr said:
Always remember this, Villeneuve and Zonta dared each other to go flat out at Eau Rouge, both stuffed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
If you look closely at Zontas accident. You'll see they even bothered to do the 1/2 and 1/2 "paint" job on the bottom of the front wing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH75RyTgKk
....and that the McLaren chassis might not be as good as Ron thinks it is. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120337
It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
I think Ron's going to be more bothered about grid penalties for engine work, it's going to need to be a good tradeoff from what Honda can bring as to whether it's worth running. I'm not sure if an extra 50hp is worth taking the tumble on the grid for when there's still another 100hp to find on top.
Wonder if Red Bull are already working like this as well, keep going with what you've got, be slow and in the middle rather than quicker and at the back
Wonder if Red Bull are already working like this as well, keep going with what you've got, be slow and in the middle rather than quicker and at the back
rdjohn said:
....and that the McLaren chassis might not be as good as Ron thinks it is. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120337
It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
Obviously there is the potential for improvements in the chassis etc, but to be honest those quotes sound a bit like nonsense considering the amount of time car is behind and how it changes between tracks. Yes, part of it was luck in Hungry, but part of it was the engine power is less important there. So I can't see the engine being as good as Arai claims. If nothing else claiming that because the cars survived one race without a breakdown that they have a good package is a bit telling (particularly if I understand correctly McLaren used new components to try and maximize points from a track they would benefit from).It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
rdjohn said:
....and that the McLaren chassis might not be as good as Ron thinks it is. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120337
It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
Arai said"[Engine] unreliability has meant lots of parts were changed in winter testing and so things like flow-vis and taking data has been done during the season in FP1, due to the unreliability in the winter."It seems the relationship has the potential to go in a similar direction to Red Bull / Renault.
Seems to me he's blaming his engines unreliability in winter testing for the lack of chassis develpement.
Cant wait....I watched the press conference. It was pretty crap. Amazingly the one who did most of the talking was Kimi, as he was asked some decent questions. The rest were basically asked "do you like spa?" and "are you looking forward to it" to which they gave short answers.
Race should be good though.
Race should be good though.
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