***** The Official Mexico Grand Prix thread *****
Discussion
l354uge said:
Apparently the thin air is going to play havoc with the cooling and aero, meaning they could run Hungary spec down force and still go faster than they did at Monza.
It's going to be fascinating, and if it rains we might see Korea 2010 levels of carnage, can't wait.
yes, will be interesting to see what effects it has, he turbo's should be able to compensate for lack of air pressure BUT! they may be up against the RPM limit to do this, so could well see some engines simply not able to make the power too.It's going to be fascinating, and if it rains we might see Korea 2010 levels of carnage, can't wait.
then you get to cooling, i they can make the power up with the turbo's, then the cooling, especially the intercoolers, will be hammered, not forgetting cooling the ERS stuff will be that much harder.
Munter said:
Silverstone are screening the Mexican GP in the wing. Free entry apparently.
https://twitter.com/SilverstoneUK/status/658658521...
Brilliant thanks for that... will head down for the Fireworks and F1 https://twitter.com/SilverstoneUK/status/658658521...
suffolk009 said:
Mexico city altitude is 7,200ft. A mile and a half-ish.
I worked there for a while, was the most unpleasant environment I have ever had to deal with on a day to day basis.took me a couple of days in to realise NOT to take the stairs more than a floor at a time, do not try running, keep of the streets unless you like breathing god-knows-what, and DO NOT eat anything you can't recognise!
If you go up the mountains around the city and look back, you can literally see the pollution as a brown/sepia 'mass' over the city.
Doobs said:
I think Hamilton was doing that to Alonso within the first two races of his F1 career wasn't he? I think if Alonso was in Hamilton's position he would have done exactly the same.
I'm not saying he would not - but he would probably be more circumspect. He knows Rosberg will give way.Scuffers said:
Doobs said:
I think Hamilton was doing that to Alonso within the first two races of his F1 career wasn't he? I think if Alonso was in Hamilton's position he would have done exactly the same.
he did indeed, first corner, first race (Aus 2007) took Alonso.thegreenhell said:
Alonso was boxed in on the inside line behind Heidfeld, allowing Hamilton to drive cleanly around the outside. Completely different situation to the move on Sunday. Other than saying 'Hamilton passed his teammate at T1' what's the relevance?
you're right, not the same, just that it's possible to pass your teammate in turn 1 without hitting him.Scuffers said:
yes, will be interesting to see what effects it has, he turbo's should be able to compensate for lack of air pressure BUT! they may be up against the RPM limit to do this, so could well see some engines simply not able to make the power too.
then you get to cooling, i they can make the power up with the turbo's, then the cooling, especially the intercoolers, will be hammered, not forgetting cooling the ERS stuff will be that much harder.
Not going to be a good race for honda, that's for sure.then you get to cooling, i they can make the power up with the turbo's, then the cooling, especially the intercoolers, will be hammered, not forgetting cooling the ERS stuff will be that much harder.
Lewis learnt a large amount of his wheel to wheel racing during seasons in non-dominant cars. Think back to Monaco 2011 where he tried to bash wheels with just about everyone. And all those collisions with Massa. To the point that now, he's similarly aggressive, but without the damage.
Looks like Nico never went through that phase and so is learning this close racing whilst in the glare of a title battle.
It wouldn't do Nico any harm to through a few moves down the inside of Lewis in the last 3 races, maybe force Lewis off track. The problem is we hardly ever see him go to the inside, he defaults to the outside so often and hence Lewis just knows where to position the car.
Looks like Nico never went through that phase and so is learning this close racing whilst in the glare of a title battle.
It wouldn't do Nico any harm to through a few moves down the inside of Lewis in the last 3 races, maybe force Lewis off track. The problem is we hardly ever see him go to the inside, he defaults to the outside so often and hence Lewis just knows where to position the car.
glazbagun said:
Does Nico get anything for comming secondn as opposed to third? With both championships settled I'd like to see Merc turn their cars up to 11 for the remaining races just to see how far ahead they still are.
I thought this, why not just use the remaining races as test days, whack in new parts, take the penalties and have some fun from the back of the grid? Could REALLY spice up what is looking to be a dull end to the season.oyster said:
Lewis learnt a large amount of his wheel to wheel racing during seasons in non-dominant cars. Think back to Monaco 2011 where he tried to bash wheels with just about everyone. And all those collisions with Massa. To the point that now, he's similarly aggressive, but without the damage.
Looks like Nico never went through that phase and so is learning this close racing whilst in the glare of a title battle.
It wouldn't do Nico any harm to through a few moves down the inside of Lewis in the last 3 races, maybe force Lewis off track. The problem is we hardly ever see him go to the inside, he defaults to the outside so often and hence Lewis just knows where to position the car.
Nico went down the inside of Ham on lap 18 and forced him wide. Not off the track but it wasn't a corner set up to do it.Looks like Nico never went through that phase and so is learning this close racing whilst in the glare of a title battle.
It wouldn't do Nico any harm to through a few moves down the inside of Lewis in the last 3 races, maybe force Lewis off track. The problem is we hardly ever see him go to the inside, he defaults to the outside so often and hence Lewis just knows where to position the car.
Didn't see anyone making an issue of it (because it was good racing).
Given the challenges of Mexico City, altitude / thin air, combined with the fact it’s a “new” venue, who will we see on the podium?
My money is on LH for the win, Vettel to put in a strong performance for 2nd, & maybe Ricciardo to finish 3rd (I’m not a Red Bull fan at all but I rate DR).
My money is on LH for the win, Vettel to put in a strong performance for 2nd, & maybe Ricciardo to finish 3rd (I’m not a Red Bull fan at all but I rate DR).
Likes Fast Cars said:
Given the challenges of Mexico City, altitude / thin air, combined with the fact it’s a “new” venue, who will we see on the podium?
My money is on LH for the win, Vettel to put in a strong performance for 2nd, & maybe Ricciardo to finish 3rd (I’m not a Red Bull fan at all but I rate DR).
Red bull may well do very well here, with low air pressure anybody with a good efficient high downforce package will have an advantage.My money is on LH for the win, Vettel to put in a strong performance for 2nd, & maybe Ricciardo to finish 3rd (I’m not a Red Bull fan at all but I rate DR).
I've just started a poll. Who's going to come second in the championship, Vettel or Rosberg?
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I've just started a poll. Who's going to come second in the championship, Vettel or Rosberg?
Vote here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
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I've just had a look at the circuit plan. I know that the awesome banked final corner had to go because of the lack of run off area, but I didn't realise they'd butchered some of the other corners too. It looks like the same kind of castration that the Red Bull Ring had suffered v its original layout.
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