Hamilton's dalliance with 'pop culture'. Good or bad?
Discussion
LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
But if it were a sense of humour championship; I reckon Vettel would indeed be up front and Button could be in for a shout also.
In equal cars, would be same in WDC.deadslow said:
LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
But if it were a sense of humour championship; I reckon Vettel would indeed be up front and Button could be in for a shout also.
In equal cars, would be same in WDC.LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
But if it were a sense of humour championship; I reckon Vettel would indeed be up front and Button could be in for a shout also.
In equal cars, would be same in WDC.I can't think of any teamate who has given JB a proper pasting. Certainly not LH.
deadslow said:
LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
deadslow said:
LDN said:
But if it were a sense of humour championship; I reckon Vettel would indeed be up front and Button could be in for a shout also.
In equal cars, would be same in WDC.I can't think of any teamate who has given JB a proper pasting. Certainly not LH.
As for JB and teammates; I agree; no-one has ever had a clear edge over him and that's a testament to Button, no doubt.
LDN said:
jogger1976 said:
I'm not LH's biggest fan, but I can certainly respect his achievements and the skill and professionalism he brings to F1.
I think a large part of the problem is that he's a successful British person,and if we're being honest with ourselves, deep down we like to knock those who we think are doing well.
I can't imagine he'd be getting the same slating if he was living in the US as they have a totally different attitude to success.
This is very very true.I think a large part of the problem is that he's a successful British person,and if we're being honest with ourselves, deep down we like to knock those who we think are doing well.
I can't imagine he'd be getting the same slating if he was living in the US as they have a totally different attitude to success.
I gave up following F1 about the time Hamilton appeared on the scene & in the face of too many races merely being processions commentators resorting to endless wittering about tyres & temperatures - zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
UpTheIron said:
ot picking on you here Greig, but Hamilton has been there and won it, so if he wants to party and his standards slip a little he has arguably earned it :-)
I don't disagree. My post wasn't a criticism - if thats what he wants to do then fair play and I would probably do the same with that level of coin in my pocket. However IMO his standards in F1 have (from a layman's view) dropped in correlation with increased activity around his music/media/social scene, to the point where I think that F1 is no longer his #1 aim in life. At the same time I think Nico has realised next year may be his 1 and only chance to get a WDC (given Mercedes dominance will come to an end at some point) so is putting absolutely everything he's got into one single task.WJNB said:
I gave up following F1 about the time Hamilton appeared on the scene & in the face of too many races merely being processions commentators resorting to endless wittering about tyres & temperatures - zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
Pistonheads. Bitterness matters.Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
LDN said:
WJNB said:
I gave up following F1 about the time Hamilton appeared on the scene & in the face of too many races merely being processions commentators resorting to endless wittering about tyres & temperatures - zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
Pistonheads. Bitterness matters.Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
I was listening to the radio the other day and a journalist was asked what athlete they like to go to a party with. The answer was “none as they are all as dull as dishwater”.
They then went on to say that they all sold what little personality they had down the river years ago with the singular ambition to be the best in the world.
I can’t help but think that Top Gear also hit on this particular point and made a virtue of making the Stig a faceless robot like figure as no racing driver ever has anything interesting to day about anything.
“For sure” seems like the only response to this…
As a culture it is a shame that we value someone’s personality and social life in any way at all, let alone judge it, criticise and gossip like old women about what x or y did with a or b.
They are all Stigs, some are better Stigs than others. Having taken part in amateur racing for the last season I have a new and profound respect for any professional racing driver, let alone the best in the world. They are all monumentally fast but I wouldn’t want to know any of them.
So to answer the OP's question.... I couldn't give a....
They then went on to say that they all sold what little personality they had down the river years ago with the singular ambition to be the best in the world.
I can’t help but think that Top Gear also hit on this particular point and made a virtue of making the Stig a faceless robot like figure as no racing driver ever has anything interesting to day about anything.
“For sure” seems like the only response to this…
As a culture it is a shame that we value someone’s personality and social life in any way at all, let alone judge it, criticise and gossip like old women about what x or y did with a or b.
They are all Stigs, some are better Stigs than others. Having taken part in amateur racing for the last season I have a new and profound respect for any professional racing driver, let alone the best in the world. They are all monumentally fast but I wouldn’t want to know any of them.
So to answer the OP's question.... I couldn't give a....
[quote=WJNB I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
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When it was mono-culture and strictly white, middle class, and drivers were of independent means?
I've often thought that we preferred it when half the world was under the cosh of communism too. The F1 paddock is just so crowded nowadays.
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When it was mono-culture and strictly white, middle class, and drivers were of independent means?
I've often thought that we preferred it when half the world was under the cosh of communism too. The F1 paddock is just so crowded nowadays.
WJNB said:
I gave up following F1 about the time Hamilton appeared on the scene & in the face of too many races merely being processions commentators resorting to endless wittering about tyres & temperatures - zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
Probably a candidate for worst PH post of the year, I reckon.Why would I want to witness a little boy with diamond ear rings who so obviously has a chip on his shoulder & sulks when he doesn't win? Note how he has to make the first move to acknowledge others when waiting to make a podium appearance. I suspect what really riles is the fact that he is respected & tolerated (after all his is a wonderful cash cow for so many hangers-on) but not fully accepted. I guess I just pine for when motor racing was a sport & the days of Hawthorn & Hill, Stirling Stewart & Salvadori etc.
(NB: I did some high-quality lurking before I registered)
GreigM said:
However IMO his standards in F1 have (from a layman's view) dropped in correlation with increased activity around his music/media/social scene, to the point where I think that F1 is no longer his #1 aim in life. At the same time I think Nico has realised next year may be his 1 and only chance to get a WDC (given Mercedes dominance will come to an end at some point) so is putting absolutely everything he's got into one single task.
Some of the worst post-rationalisation I've ever read. Does "IMHO" stand for "Suspending All Common Sense For A Moment"?Lewis has been a media w
e for quite some time now; not that I have any personal issue with that. To try and attribute him having a poor last couple of races this season (after he had won his third title) to "increased activity around his music/media/social scene" makes it sound like you only started watching F1 last year.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff