BBC to stop F1 coverage - petition

[zarjaz1991]

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.

Next on the agenda are BBC4, BBC2 and most of BBC local radio. Then it's BBC News.
Murdoch wants the BBC dismantling so that the revenue streams come to him instead and Cameron is obliging.
You can not believe it if you like, just watch it happen.

[jbudgie]

zarjaz1991 said:

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.

Next on the agenda are BBC4, BBC2 and most of BBC local radio. Then it's BBC News.
Murdoch wants the BBC dismantling so that the revenue streams come to him instead and Cameron is obliging.
You can not believe it if you like, just watch it happen.

Mr Murdoch is not nice, never has been , never will be.

[zarjaz1991]

jbudgie said:

Mr Murdoch is not nice, never has been , never will be.

Yeah, that was kind of the point....

[swisstoni]

zarjaz1991 said:

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.

Next on the agenda are BBC4, BBC2 and most of BBC local radio. Then it's BBC News.
Murdoch wants the BBC dismantling so that the revenue streams come to him instead and Cameron is obliging.
You can not believe it if you like, just watch it happen.

Totally agree. The Beeb is preventing Sky from really fleecing the sheep. But the sheep are to thick to realise and will carry on bleating about the license fee.

[stemll]

swisstoni said:

zarjaz1991 said:

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.

Next on the agenda are BBC4, BBC2 and most of BBC local radio. Then it's BBC News.
Murdoch wants the BBC dismantling so that the revenue streams come to him instead and Cameron is obliging.
You can not believe it if you like, just watch it happen.

Totally agree. The Beeb is preventing Sky from really fleecing the sheep. But the sheep are to thick to realise and will carry on bleating about the license fee.

I choose to pay to pay for the content I want to watch, I object to being forced to fund what should be a commercial enterprise whether I am interested in their output or not. That objection is no different to you not wanting to fund Sky. Imagine if you had no choice and had to pay Sky regardless of whether you wanted to watch it.

Very, very little of what I watch is from the BBC and I wouldn't actually miss any of it. I don't listen to any radio (BBC or commercial) so that is of no consequence to me and their news is just one of many sources of identical information.

[Eric Mc]

You do know the licence is not compulsory?

[anonymous-user]

swisstoni said:

Totally agree. The Beeb is preventing Sky from really fleecing the sheep. But the sheep are to thick to realise and will carry on bleating about the license fee.

And you are too thick to use the correct number of o's in too.

[GrizzlyBear]

zarjaz1991 said:

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.
/quote]

So being forced to pay for the BBC is different?

Eric Mc said:

You do know the licence is not compulsory?

So if I only watch live channels other than the BBC I don't have to pay it?

If the BBC provides quality entertainment via the unique way it is funded, then it will have no problem maintaining itself as a subscriber only service. Hopefully the government will show some backbone and stop the TV tax and tell the BBC to stand on it's own feet (adverts or subscriber).

Perhaps C4 could do something innovative like stream adverts while keeping part of the screen on the race, to be honest if F1 stays much longer on the BBC it would end up as strictly celebrity F1, where lots of celebrities that I have never seen before race round a track.

[swisstoni]

jsf said:

swisstoni said:

Totally agree. The Beeb is preventing Sky from really fleecing the sheep. But the sheep are to thick to realise and will carry on bleating about the license fee.

And you are too thick to use the correct number of o's in too.

Brilliant retort!

[jbudgie]

zarjaz1991 said:

jbudgie said:

Mr Murdoch is not nice, never has been , never will be.

Yeah, that was kind of the point....

And I kind of realised that.

[VladD]

This has nothing to do with us

[Redlake27]

I'm guessing none of us are signing the petition then...

It is great that C4 have taken this on. I'm a Motorsport lover....and a BBC fan. But when the BBC were taking up a couple of hours of Friday/Saturday morning TV to show the monotony of Free Practice, I really didn't think they were being fair to licence payers either.

[hairyben]

zarjaz1991 said:

stemll said:

Of course it is, nothing to do with the BBC Trust or the executive board then? The BBC is a complacent, arrogant dinosaur and if the management are not careful it will go the way of Leyland.

You'll know I was right when you are paying That nice Mr Murdoch for all your TV, radio and news.

Next on the agenda are BBC4, BBC2 and most of BBC local radio. Then it's BBC News.
Murdoch wants the BBC dismantling so that the revenue streams come to him instead and Cameron is obliging.
You can not believe it if you like, just watch it happen.

What you are missing though is that even if the evil little gargoyles you feel murdoch/cameron/thatcher are are working very hard against the bbc, it amounts to kitten scratches compared to the bbc's own problems which are what will destroy it from the inside out, and form the basis of much of the criticism rather than any idealogical or commercial aspirations.

Spoken as a lifelong F1 fan, the bbc should never have bought the rights at the cost they did. it was too much straight into the pockets of the mega-rich for too little (niche interest) with what is ultimately tax/peoples money, for something that'd have been broadcast one way or another. The subsequent wastage and bungling is well documented so I need not repeat it all. What is pertinent though is nobody has fallen on their sword over this or publically admitted a mistake was made. Theres an attitude of complete arrogant, unaccountability, that the wastage doesn't matter and that there's always more money - (I know someone involved in bbc F1 who, not that long after a significant relocation package has just received a significant redundancy package)

[Rich_W]

zarjaz1991 said:

The BBC is being systematically destroyed by this government, and they are doing it in order to hand all the content to Rupert Murdoch, so he can charge for it.

And everyone is acting like sheeple, letting it happen.

The fact that the BBC badly needs reform does not justify the current butchery.

Rupert Murdoch doesn't actually have any stake in BSB His son James does though. He also employs THOUSANDS of people in the UK, invests in our Olympic cycling team and paid £1.3Bn of UK Taxes so I'm in no rush to see him gone. (Probably not the most they could have paid, but more than Google et al)

And anyway whilst I'm on Virgin Media. I'm quite happy for Sky to get some of the money. They produce and/or show programmes I want to watch! The only thing I used to watch on BBC regularly was Top Gear, F1 and The Football League show (Bloody Fulham getting relegated and being too cack to re-enter Premier League! ) All gone now. Amazon/C4/C4

I don't listen to the BBC Radio output either.

So why should I care about the BBC anyway? The Leyland analogy above, was spot on!

[oyster]

I pay approx £12 a month for the BBC.

Yesterday I paid that for a bottle of water in a restaurant.


I think the licence fee is the best value thing on earth.




..... cue replies from techo nerds who prefer to spend their time hotwiring the internet to watch things for free and save 25p.

[0000]

zarjaz1991 said:

The BBC is being systematically destroyed by this government

I wish.

[jbudgie]

oyster said:

I pay approx £12 a month for the BBC.

Yesterday I paid that for a bottle of water in a restaurant.


I think the licence fee is the best value thing on earth.




..... cue replies from techo nerds who prefer to spend their time hotwiring the internet to watch things for free and save 25p.

If you spent £12 on a bottle of water then I think you are not the person to be advising other people on how to spend their money.

[BarbaricAvatar]

jbudgie said:

oyster said:

I pay approx £12 a month for the BBC.

Yesterday I paid that for a bottle of water in a restaurant.


I think the licence fee is the best value thing on earth.




..... cue replies from techo nerds who prefer to spend their time hotwiring the internet to watch things for free and save 25p.

If you spent £12 on a bottle of water then I think you are not the person to be advising other people on how to spend their money.

Agreed. You do know you can ask for tap water in a Restaurant, right?

[superlightr]

oyster said:

I pay approx £12 a month for the BBC.

Yesterday I paid that for a bottle of water in a restaurant.


I think the licence fee is the best value thing on earth.




..... cue replies from techo nerds who prefer to spend their time hotwiring the internet to watch things for free and save 25p.

Was that on expenses from the BBC? Its about right for the unique way they are funded.

[swisstoni]

BarbaricAvatar said:

jbudgie said:

oyster said:

I pay approx £12 a month for the BBC.

Yesterday I paid that for a bottle of water in a restaurant.


I think the licence fee is the best value thing on earth.




..... cue replies from techo nerds who prefer to spend their time hotwiring the internet to watch things for free and save 25p.

If you spent £12 on a bottle of water then I think you are not the person to be advising other people on how to spend their money.

Agreed. You do know you can ask for tap water in a Restaurant, right?

Sky is expensive tapwater.