F1 on Channel 4

F1 on Channel 4

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PhilAsia

3,847 posts

76 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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I wince at Coultard's RB pre-race arse-licking. His tongue is so far up that RB staff don't need to brush their back teeth...eek!

However, during the the race the commentary is ok, and with Webber dropping the occasional Aussie comedy gold nugget is often refreshing entertainment.

majordad

3,601 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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I thought C4 coverage was very good

Mr Tidy

22,432 posts

128 months

Wednesday 12th July 2023
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I only have "peasant TV" so can't comment on Sky.

And I always record CH 4 and watch with a delay so I can skip the Steve Jones cr*p like Max's taxi, nicking the trophy, brown-nose Horner interviews, adverts, etc.

Doing it that way overall I was pretty pleased with it!


Tazar

474 posts

193 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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Steve Jones really p*sses me off with his attempted jokes. He really thinks he’s something special but obviously DC and others think he’s okay.
Steve, Billy and Alex reporting from the F1 Centre were uninspiring. Don’t present themselves as world class presenters. All wearing the Poundland “Grey” range of clothing.
Next year will swap to Sky .

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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Probably want to sample the "crofty" before you commit to a contract, though, as if you're easily annoyed by idiots....

CocoUK

959 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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Best consumer advice I’ve ever read

Dinoboy

2,508 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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Teddy Lop said:
Probably want to sample the "crofty" before you commit to a contract, though, as if you're easily annoyed by idiots....
This exactly, I can't bear any of the build up now on sky. Tune in on the formation lap and switch off as the flag falls. The only one worth listening to is Karun.

Blink982

768 posts

105 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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F1 coverage in the UK has become really bad and allowed to happen because viewing figures have risen. I’m guessing that is the case as I don’t actually know. I can’t understand how some are still there and haven’t been moved on and some of the newer team members are woeful. I haven’t watched much CH4 coverage this season at all but that’s because the season has been so tedious, the thought of watching highlights just doesn’t appeal.

I used to enjoy F1 coverage on CH4 but it became too obvious that the main protractors still had very close ties with one team and it became very biased and product placement of a certain sugary energy drink overwhelmed the quality of their product.

UK F1 coverage needs a shakeup and I’m considering F1 TV using my VPN for next year.

Castellet

162 posts

19 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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You can’t really compare CH4 with Sky, there must be a huge difference in their budgets.

Interestingly, I believe that CH4 has higher viewing figures than Sky. Presumably, because the mainstream viewing audience prefers to watch condensed highlights, rather than Sky’s all day, wall to wall, coverage. And, that seems to be reflected in CH4’s smaller, more relaxed, broadcast team and style.

You would expect Sky to be more professional, with higher levels of expertise. Some people on here don’t seem to like Crofty, but it’s clearly personal, I don’t have a problem, actually quite like his enthusiastic manner.

PhilAsia

3,847 posts

76 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Castellet said:
You can’t really compare CH4 with Sky, there must be a huge difference in their budgets.

Interestingly, I believe that CH4 has higher viewing figures than Sky. Presumably, because the mainstream viewing audience prefers to watch condensed highlights, rather than Sky’s all day, wall to wall, coverage. And, that seems to be reflected in CH4’s smaller, more relaxed, broadcast team and style.

You would expect Sky to be more professional, with higher levels of expertise. Some people on here don’t seem to like Crofty, but it’s clearly personal, I don’t have a problem, actually quite like his enthusiastic manner.
..."clearly personal"? Liking something is always personal isn't it?

TO73074E

417 posts

28 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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I got Sky recently as i prefer to watch the races live and don't really want to stay up late for the highlights when the races are in the Americas. I actually miss the CH4 coverage, I'd happily swap all except Chandhok and Brundle.

Ted's alright too.

Gary29

4,163 posts

100 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Dinoboy said:
This exactly, I can't bear any of the build up now on sky. Tune in on the formation lap and switch off as the flag falls. The only one worth listening to is Karun.
That's what I do now. Shame really as I used to enjoy 30 mins of build up to get the anticipation juices flowing before a race, but Sky is intolerable.


nickwilcock

1,522 posts

248 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Trying to squeeze the quallies, Sprint shoot out and Sprint into a 70 min edited slot simply doesn't work!

Gushing nonsense about the Biggin Hill centre was irrelevant in such a short programme.

StevieBee

12,933 posts

256 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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First there was Jonathan Leggard. Then James Allen...Crofty must go! ITV, BBC, C4, Sky.... Had the internet been a thing in the days of Murray Walker, there would no doubt be torrents of anti-Walker sentiment about how useless he was as well. Bottom line is that the internet will never be satisfied with whoever broadcasts and commentates F1.


4.7AMV8

2,141 posts

167 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Gary29 said:
Dinoboy said:
This exactly, I can't bear any of the build up now on sky. Tune in on the formation lap and switch off as the flag falls. The only one worth listening to is Karun.
That's what I do now. Shame really as I used to enjoy 30 mins of build up to get the anticipation juices flowing before a race, but Sky is intolerable.
I do prefer Sky but what was that boring fill-bit of Perez and LeClerc doing self portraits?? Its that tosh that puts me off Sky.

Tazar

474 posts

193 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Not long into the coverage and already fed up with Steve Jones and his attempted jokes and interviewing. Smarmy, full of himself and embarrassing.

Otherwise happy to have Billy and Jamie with sensible comments and insight to racing and track conditions. I watch F1 for the car racing and I like the presenters to know what they are talking about.

Also happy when Lee is hosting the programme. She has been around for a while and has good relationships with the drivers and team personnel.

But I suppose all of the above is probably the opposite of what Liberty want. They see it as entertainment rather than sport. So a Grand Prix has to have concerts, personalities shipped in who rarely know why they are there, reality television programmes about the racing personalities.

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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I half think the C4 efforts are designed just to drive you into paying for an alternative.

Some of the content & scheduling just has to be deliberately bad doesn't it??

Mark-C

5,139 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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pquinn said:
I half think the C4 efforts are designed just to drive you into paying for an alternative.

Some of the content & scheduling just has to be deliberately bad doesn't it??
They don't have much choice on the scheduling do they?

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Mark-C said:
pquinn said:
I half think the C4 efforts are designed just to drive you into paying for an alternative.

Some of the content & scheduling just has to be deliberately bad doesn't it??
They don't have much choice on the scheduling do they?
No as Sky dictates the minimum delay the highlights can be shown after the event.

motco

15,968 posts

247 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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The in-race commentator on C4 (Lee McKenzie?) wears me out with his hysterical commentary carried out at frantic football commentator pitch and volume.