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Bo_apex

2,568 posts

219 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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HustleRussell said:
hehe presumably all the sanctimonious people boring on about tax would go to great lengths to ensure that they make full and proper contribution to the UK treasury and would never think about all of those millions they'll never see.
Absolutely. British. Contributor. Proud.

Now Lewis, did you mention you were proud to be British standing in front of that Union Jack flag ?

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LDN

8,911 posts

204 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Bo_apex said:
HustleRussell said:
hehe presumably all the sanctimonious people boring on about tax would go to great lengths to ensure that they make full and proper contribution to the UK treasury and would never think about all of those millions they'll never see.
Absolutely. British. Contributor. Proud.

Now Lewis, did you mention you were proud to be British standing in front of that Union Jack flag ?

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Do you get as upset at Jenson / Coulthard / et al... for doing the exact same thing? I have a sneaking suspicion you do not wink

Grow up.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Paraphrased from a leading accountancy firm:

"Monaco residents are not subject to tax on their worldwide income. Some countries will insist that Monaco residents pay tax in that Country, should the majority of their earnings originate there. However, residents working sporadically or all over the world can avoid paying it altogether."

I have no idea who pays what tax and even less interest. Tax avoidance is there for us all to take in one form or another.

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Where does the money come from the maintain public spaces and services in Monaco? I'm guessing there's some very interesting reading somewhere.

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Does the assumption that you pay tax where you earn it mean that people who internationally travel for work pay tax in those countries?

A friend of mine used to live in Brussels and spend nearly half his time in New York. Still paid in Brussels.

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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1) pretty much every f1 driver has done the same including Jackie Stewart...don't see anyone bashing them

2) why would you pay tax in a country that you don't live in...tax is there to sustain services like the NHS, police, road infrastructure etc etc. If you don't use them other than holidays and the short period you work in the country why should you pay it?

3) Lewis can't change where he was born so why should he stand under an American or monoco flag on the podium


37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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The Moose said:
Does the assumption that you pay tax where you earn it mean that people who internationally travel for work pay tax in those countries?

A friend of mine used to live in Brussels and spend nearly half his time in New York. Still paid in Brussels.
Sports events are different. I remember a row that broke out pre olympics or commonwealth games because foreign athletes suddenly realised they had to pay an extra tax on their winnings/ earnings when they competed in the uk

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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If people really want to bh and moan then go after people who actually live/ work in the country, benefit from it and evade/ avoid tax https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sp...

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Bo_apex said:
No draining of forum, just a mere objective viewpoint. If Lewis wanted to contribute his normal share, he would have stayed domiciled in Britain. Simple!
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The only motivation for becoming based in Monaco is to minimise his tax contribution to Britain. It might be more palatable if he stopped trumpeting his British and proud patter. Greg Rusedski anyone...? biggrin

thegreenhell

15,404 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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MitchT said:
Where does the money come from the maintain public spaces and services in Monaco? I'm guessing there's some very interesting reading somewhere.
They collect VAT on goods and services purchased in the Principality. They also still have a form of corporation tax for businesses based there.

LDN

8,911 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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sparta6 said:
Bo_apex said:
No draining of forum, just a mere objective viewpoint. If Lewis wanted to contribute his normal share, he would have stayed domiciled in Britain. Simple!
+1
The only motivation for becoming based in Monaco is to minimise his tax contribution to Britain. It might be more palatable if he stopped trumpeting his British and proud patter. Greg Rusedski anyone...? biggrin
You chaps need your head read... as has been said umpteen times; Hamilton has done nothing that nigh on every other British driver hasn't also done; including some very patriotic ones indeed.

You boys will have to troll harder than that hehe

M3ax

1,291 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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I'm proud of my country of birth but I havent lived there, nor paid tax there for 17 years. I wonder what that says about me? tongue out

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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LDN said:
sparta6 said:
Bo_apex said:
No draining of forum, just a mere objective viewpoint. If Lewis wanted to contribute his normal share, he would have stayed domiciled in Britain. Simple!
+1
The only motivation for becoming based in Monaco is to minimise his tax contribution to Britain. It might be more palatable if he stopped trumpeting his British and proud patter. Greg Rusedski anyone...? biggrin
You chaps need your head read... as has been said umpteen times; Hamilton has done nothing that nigh on every other British driver hasn't also done; including some very patriotic ones indeed.

You boys will have to troll harder than that hehe
Sir Jackie Stewart and David Coulthard don't count. We all know the Scots have a tight reputation biggrin

swisstoni

17,035 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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M3ax said:
I'm proud of my country of birth but I havent lived there, nor paid tax there for 17 years. I wonder what that says about me? tongue out
You aren't Lewis Hamilton so you are off the hook.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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I do enjoy this thread - 1001 ways to wind up Lewis Hamilton's self appointed Internet body guards smile

swisstoni

17,035 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
I do enjoy this thread - 1001 ways to wind up Lewis Hamilton's self appointed Internet body guards smile
It's the thick haters that amuse me, so everyone's a winner.

KevinCamaroSS

11,641 posts

281 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Bo_apex said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
His pay check will be divided into 20 (if 20 races in the season), so 5% will be allocated to the UK, and 5% to each of the countries the races take place in. Therefore he will likely be paying more UK tax than you or I.
A nice idea but it's highly likely that his well oiled accountant can get his UK tax contribution down to single digits with creativity. Meanwhile his team of mechanics, who travel travel with him to each race, are almost certainly contributing their normal 20% tax etc to UK Treasury, unless they are domiciled in Monaco ofcourse !
Of course he will have a tax accountant advising him, but, 5% is single digits in percentage terms is it not? These rules are well-established in international law and generally work well. If he is paying UK tax on even 2% of his annual income that is a significant amount anyway.

cuprabob

14,675 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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sparta6 said:
LDN said:
sparta6 said:
Bo_apex said:
No draining of forum, just a mere objective viewpoint. If Lewis wanted to contribute his normal share, he would have stayed domiciled in Britain. Simple!
+1
The only motivation for becoming based in Monaco is to minimise his tax contribution to Britain. It might be more palatable if he stopped trumpeting his British and proud patter. Greg Rusedski anyone...? biggrin
You chaps need your head read... as has been said umpteen times; Hamilton has done nothing that nigh on every other British driver hasn't also done; including some very patriotic ones indeed.

You boys will have to troll harder than that hehe
Sir Jackie Stewart and David Coulthard don't count. We all know the Scots have a tight reputation biggrin
Indeed and to fair to Sir Jackie top rate tax was around 90% during his period, if my memory serves me right.


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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95% at one point I believe.

Even with my left leaning sensibilities that is OTT.

VladD

7,859 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
If he is paying UK tax on even 2% of his annual income that is a significant amount anyway.
F1 drivers are contractors rather then employees aren't they? What he invoice Mercedes for and what he earns are probably very different. I'd imagine he writes a fair bit off for jet fuel. wink

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