Lewis Hamilton
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swisstoni said:
Yet there are people out there (British people ffs) just waiting to pounce on anything they can find to put him down.
When pulled up on it they will often say 'I just think he's an idiot' and probably google a picture of him in a funny outfit. That's all they've got.
A bit pathetic really.
Yeah, I don't see what the problem is with him at all. People eh, not comfortable with the British being successful.When pulled up on it they will often say 'I just think he's an idiot' and probably google a picture of him in a funny outfit. That's all they've got.
A bit pathetic really.
selym said:
Yeah, I don't see what the problem is with him at all. People eh, not comfortable with the British being successful.
Not sure if you are serous. The British public love their athletes doing well. Have you ever watched the Olympics or Wimbledon? I don't recall Jenson Button having any animosity directed towards him and Anthony Joshua is everybody's favourite at the minute.Maybe it is the fact he tries too hard to be liked and spends more time on social media than Kim Kardashian doesn't endear himself to the long serving F1 fans, who remember when the cars had gear sticks. There is no doubting he has attracted new viewers to the sport though, even people who can't name a track or a car can name Lewis Hamilton and know "he is the best".
Kimi is the most popular driver and the antithesis of Lewis. Just a thought.
InductionRoar said:
Not sure if you are serous. The British public love their athletes doing well. Have you ever watched the Olympics or Wimbledon? I don't recall Jenson Button having any animosity directed towards him and Anthony Joshua is everybody's favourite at the minute.
Maybe it is the fact he tries too hard to be liked and spends more time on social media than Kim Kardashian doesn't endear himself to the long serving F1 fans, who remember when the cars had gear sticks. There is no doubting he has attracted new viewers to the sport though, even people who can't name a track or a car can name Lewis Hamilton and know "he is the best".
Kimi is the most popular driver and the antithesis of Lewis. Just a thought.
By comparison, I never took to Mansell. Brilliant driver but did nothing but oh so dour out of the cockpit... ditto I never liked Hill (in person or on the track)...Maybe it is the fact he tries too hard to be liked and spends more time on social media than Kim Kardashian doesn't endear himself to the long serving F1 fans, who remember when the cars had gear sticks. There is no doubting he has attracted new viewers to the sport though, even people who can't name a track or a car can name Lewis Hamilton and know "he is the best".
Kimi is the most popular driver and the antithesis of Lewis. Just a thought.
Lewis at least tries; his music and style is not to my taste, he has historically said some daft things to microphone, but he does try to engage...
From the "old days" Surtees (though could be a grumpy bugger by many accounts), Moss and Stewart - character and engagement.
InductionRoar said:
selym said:
Yeah, I don't see what the problem is with him at all. People eh, not comfortable with the British being successful.
Not sure if you are serous. The British public love their athletes doing well. Have you ever watched the Olympics or Wimbledon? I don't recall Jenson Button having any animosity directed towards him and Anthony Joshua is everybody's favourite at the minute.Maybe it is the fact he tries too hard to be liked and spends more time on social media than Kim Kardashian doesn't endear himself to the long serving F1 fans, who remember when the cars had gear sticks. There is no doubting he has attracted new viewers to the sport though, even people who can't name a track or a car can name Lewis Hamilton and know "he is the best".
Kimi is the most popular driver and the antithesis of Lewis. Just a thought.
And when Lewis retires they'll be plenty of Brits moaning the we haven't got any quality drivers, why f1 hasn't got a decent British driver, why we haven't got a world champion, I'm not a fan of his of track lifestyle,no wish he didn't think he was some sort of gangster,no wish he didn't think he could sing but I've learnt to ignore all that now and just watch him on the track, his private life is his own business, I just wish he was still 22.
When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
Doink said:
And when Lewis retires they'll be plenty of Brits moaning the we haven't got any quality drivers, why f1 hasn't got a decent British driver, why we haven't got a world champion, I'm not a fan of his of track lifestyle,no wish he didn't think he was some sort of gangster,no wish he didn't think he could sing but I've learnt to ignore all that now and just watch him on the track, his private life is his own business, I just wish he was still 22.
When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
It's a good point; I go to Silverstone each year and Hamilton is loved... every lap; massive cheer each time he goes by. As you say; I don't know who the next British f1 superstar will be; who the kids will have as their driving hero. I'm not sure who is on the horizon in this respect. When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
Doink said:
And when Lewis retires they'll be plenty of Brits moaning the we haven't got any quality drivers, why f1 hasn't got a decent British driver, why we haven't got a world champion, I'm not a fan of his of track lifestyle,no wish he didn't think he was some sort of gangster,no wish he didn't think he could sing but I've learnt to ignore all that now and just watch him on the track, his private life is his own business, I just wish he was still 22.
When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
When he does retire, I wonder where the many on PH that froth on the mouth waiting for him to fart, so thry can open a new thread up, to express their hatred for him. When he retires where's the next brit coming from that we can cheer on...........Jolyon Palmer FFS
It became very amusing.
Drivers come and go course they do and one day he'll have to retire but we havent got a queue of upcoming british talent in GP2 or 3.5 chomping at the bit to get into F1 have we, dont understand the hatred for him, he's a brit FFS he's one of us so get behind him,yet some would rather cheer on a Spaniard or a german, ok people have their favourites but most of the Hamilton haters base that hate on the type of clothes he wears or the weird interviews - I suppose if that's all you've got on him then more fool you, one things for sure is you cannot without any shadow slate his driving, his commitment, his balls out style
Leroy902 said:
When he does retire, I wonder where the many on PH that froth on the mouth waiting for him to fart, so thry can open a new thread up, to express their hatred for him.
It became very amusing.
Indeed, does amuse me when said forum members quite happily slag Lewis off when a news story breaks but are never around to congratulate him after a performance on track like yesterday. Quite sad really It became very amusing.
LDN said:
You makes some good points but there are those of us that could give two hoots about social media and all that blah' - I'm not sure why long standing F1 fans, such as myself would even know about it all... I for one, care about the driving; and as I said before; in ten years since he entered F1 - we've seen nothing like his level of talent, bar perhaps Verstappen; it was an explosive introduction to the sport and if you go and watch those old videos; you'll hear he commentary reflect this; at time, utter disbelief at the level of talent. To beat Alonso in his rookie year is astonishing; and I think there's a lot of people who don't fully comprehend the amazing era we are witnessing (driver wise at least).
I was not disputing his obvious talent, merely playing devil's advocate. I don't think people dislike Lewis because he is a good driver, neither am I aware that this general dislike was present in his first season, which you rightly say was extremely impressive (I say this as an Alonso fan myself). This makes me think it is more to do with his off-track antics and aspirations rather than his race craft.Motor racing has always had its share of characters but none so polarizing as Lewis. He tries so hard to be seen as the poor boy done well for himself and overcompensates for this with his Floyd Mayweather style of Instagram posting. Nothing is ever mentioned of the fact that Fernando's dad could not afford wet tyres so he entered all races on slicks (a story similar to that of Jenson's) but Lewis feels the need to shoehorn it in wherever possible. Those that care know, those that don't well, don't.
He wants to appeal to the everyday man in the street and the new money rappers. He does admirably well at appealing to both. He doesn't, IMO, appeal to the people in the middle, who tend to like the Vettels and Ricciardos of this world.
I doubt he cares. I'm not really sure why there is a 60 odd page thread discussing it either but it is clearly a contentious topic.
I don't like Lewis the personality but it is hard to look past his talent.
You mention Verstappen as being the only driver who has started his career at such a high level in the last 10 years. I would argue the fact that had Vettel, Ricciardo or Sainz started their career in a potentially championship winning car and enjoyed the "Ron assistance" that Lewis did we would be extolling them as the greatest too. Particularly, as one of them already has one WDC more to his name despite having spent more years driving uncompetitive cars. [lightsthefuseandrunsoff]
RB Will said:
I don't understand why it's not ok to not like Lewis because of his persona rather than talent?
Granted he is pretty good behind the wheel but I don't like the guy. He just grates on me.
Go back and read some of this thread, the desperate attempts to nitpick and try to demean him are utterly pathetic.Granted he is pretty good behind the wheel but I don't like the guy. He just grates on me.
Disliking him and this thread are two different things.
Doink said:
He's a racing driver so like him for that if you think he's good at it, don't hate him as a driver because of how he says things or what he does in his private life
I've absolutely no idea what he does in his private life. Do you/we? Would you like people to see what you post on PH and take that as you 360degrees?
I'm not having a go just following on the topic but when people say he's a knob out of the car, how do we know this?
I've never met him or watched his typical non-work day.
It's
Lewis is actually fine when things are going great for him. His interviews and hole persona improves.
It is the times when things are not going for him which I fine hard to watch. Yes no driver wants to have a bad race of season but it is in these moments when Lewis becomes hard to like.
Can you imagine if Lewis had been in the McLaren Honda the last two years.
It is the times when things are not going for him which I fine hard to watch. Yes no driver wants to have a bad race of season but it is in these moments when Lewis becomes hard to like.
Can you imagine if Lewis had been in the McLaren Honda the last two years.
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