Lewis Hamilton

[anonymous-user]

Sa Calobra said:

If he was white much more British people would love him.

I still think we have an issue taking non white stars to heart.

I think its pseudo hidden by 'the way he dresses' or 'says'. Neither of which are offensive. If he was white doing the exact same thing - would he be treated differently? If course.

Personally I wouldn't have him any other way. Top bloke

What a stupid comment.

[anonymous-user]

DeltonaS said:

Epic drive ?

If you've followed the season (and by the way the previous three), you've seen that there's a huge performance gap between the top three teams and rest of the field. It's not even a contest.

Secondly Merc. turned up on Ham's new engine in Brazil. And for the first time this season Ham drove the entire race on full power.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/merce...

RedBull (and the other Renault teams) on the other hand turned down the power because they have a lack of spare parts and have reliability problems.

So No.44 drove around with a more powerfull car than the entire field including his teammate, had two DRS zones on every lap and was gifted three DNF's in the first two laps. And the nature of the track (especially the fast up hill part) did the rest. He overtook cars with a +30 km/h speed difference. Nobody even bothered to defend.

So theirs nothing epic or masterclass about Ham's 4th place, it just a natural outcome of the in difference in performance. He ended where he should've ended.

By the way it's quite amusing to see that the British press hails Ham and the German press (Auto Motor und Sport) hails the Mercedes engine.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11123386/le...

I'll go with the German press this time.

You have to agree with this statement.

The performance advantage was pretty extreme.

Most drivers didn't even bother to try and stop him passing.

This happens year in year out when a top car starts at the back of the field.

Again it shows the gulf between the top teams and even the midfield.

[E34-3.2]

Interesting that someone mentioned J.hunt. Definitely the biggest T@wt F1 has ever produced and the luckiest F1 champion as well. Still, people in this country thinks that he is a legend...

[evilmiyagi]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I think it was a very genuine greeting too.
I hope he really goes for it today and make sit very interesting after Max and Vettel have their usual at the first corner.
Bottas win with LH on the Podium would be good.

Absolutely! Hood up avoiding the press, he was there for one reason and one reason alone. To congratulate VB on a stellar job.

Edited by evilmiyagi on Monday 13th November 12:58

[Melman Giraffe]

E34-3.2 said:

Interesting that someone mentioned J.hunt. Definitely the biggest T@wt F1 has ever produced and the luckiest F1 champion as well. Still, people in this country thinks that he is a legend...

Wow - i think you are now the tt

[HighwayStar]

angrymoby said:

liner33 said:

Maybe but it is a race thing, James Hunt was loved and he was a total dick, a playboy and very much rock star image and came across as an upper class toff , so hardly a man of the people.

Mind you people seem to love Mo Farrah and he isnt anywhere near the role model that Lewis is

Imagine if Lewis punched a marshall? ...the internet would break

As for Ennis, Farah or Daley ...neither visibly hang around with Rihanna, Kanye, Pharrell or Kendrick Lamar, indeed all 3 are softly spoken & you wouldn't be surprised if you bumped into any of them in your local M&S food aisle- which tells us a lot

Just had a thought.... I think if Lewis was white, he'd likely still get grief for some of his so called antics. Would he get the same amount of grief, who knows. Ennis, Farah and Daley are high profile athletes living low profile lives. All have settled down. The spot light only shone on them for a relatively short time, their major event's taking place once a year at best.
Lewis handing with the people he does, doing what he does, wearing what he wears really upsets some people. Why I don't really understand. Is it the British reserve, not to draw attention to yourself or be flash?
I was driving through my down one day with a friend in the car.. Someone in front of us in a new Merc pulled over to the side of the road. As we passed my mate says look at him, what a waste of money, flash bd... I was really surprised. He knew nothing about the guy behind the wheel but an instant judgement was made. He presumed. He knew the sort of person he the driver was and what he was about. Me, he was a guy in a C class.
Why Lewis's life out of the car bother's some so much as a mystery to me and I must admit a source of amusement.
Mercedes are obviously happy with him and what he delivers. When he stops delivering he'll be out just like any other driver, if he doesn't retire first.

[angrymoby]

Melman Giraffe said:

Wow - i think you are now the tt

alright Kimi, calm down

I'm with E34 ...Hunt during his racing years was an absolute weapons grade bell end, both on & off track ...misogynistic, conceited, alcoholic & a fkin' awful father to Freddie, maybe he mellowed with age, but 'Hunt the ' would've been a more apt nickname

& it pains me to type that, as he was a childhood hero of mine

Edited by angrymoby on Monday 13th November 17:52

[anonymous-user]

HighwayStar said:

Just had a thought.... I think if Lewis was white, he'd likely still get grief for some of his so called antics. Would he get the same amount of grief, who knows. Ennis, Farah and Daley are high profile athletes living low profile lives. All have settled down. The spot light only shone on them for a relatively short time, their major event's taking place once a year at best.
Lewis handing with the people he does, doing what he does, wearing what he wears really upsets some people. Why I don't really understand. Is it the British reserve, not to draw attention to yourself or be flash?
I was driving through my down one day with a friend in the car.. Someone in front of us in a new Merc pulled over to the side of the road. As we passed my mate says look at him, what a waste of money, flash bd... I was really surprised. He knew nothing about the guy behind the wheel but an instant judgement was made. He presumed. He knew the sort of person he the driver was and what he was about. Me, he was a guy in a C class.
Why Lewis's life out of the car bother's some so much as a mystery to me and I must admit a source of amusement.
Mercedes are obviously happy with him and what he delivers. When he stops delivering he'll be out just like any other driver, if he doesn't retire first.

I really don't know why people are mentioning colour.

It seems as soon as someone does not like Hamilton you are suddenly racist.

I am not a fan of Hamilton at all but it is nothing to do with his race.

I don't mind what he does in his spare time either nor how he dresses "even when it is pretty terrible at times"

It is when things are not going his why and the bottom lip appears.

His persona and attitude has been much better this year but then he is not being challenged in the Mercedes camp.

Lewis has been exceptional in 2017 and he deserved the Championship.

[anonymous-user]

angrymoby said:

I'm with E34 ...Hunt during his racing years was an absolute weapons grade bell end, both on & off track ...misogynistic, conceited, alcoholic & a fkin' awful father to Freddie, maybe he mellowed with age, but 'Hunt the ' would've been a more apt nickname

& it pains me to type that, as he was a childhood hero of mine

He was not much better in later life either.

He liked his birds. The feather variety as well as the models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGYbjL83hg

[Bo_apex]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

He was not much better in later life either.

He liked his birds. The feather variety as well as the models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGYbjL83hg

The birds seemed to like both Hunt and Sheene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpMsgHpvWts

[HighwayStar]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

HighwayStar said:

Just had a thought.... I think if Lewis was white, he'd likely still get grief for some of his so called antics. Would he get the same amount of grief, who knows. Ennis, Farah and Daley are high profile athletes living low profile lives. All have settled down. The spot light only shone on them for a relatively short time, their major event's taking place once a year at best.
Lewis handing with the people he does, doing what he does, wearing what he wears really upsets some people. Why I don't really understand. Is it the British reserve, not to draw attention to yourself or be flash?
I was driving through my down one day with a friend in the car.. Someone in front of us in a new Merc pulled over to the side of the road. As we passed my mate says look at him, what a waste of money, flash bd... I was really surprised. He knew nothing about the guy behind the wheel but an instant judgement was made. He presumed. He knew the sort of person he the driver was and what he was about. Me, he was a guy in a C class.
Why Lewis's life out of the car bother's some so much as a mystery to me and I must admit a source of amusement.
Mercedes are obviously happy with him and what he delivers. When he stops delivering he'll be out just like any other driver, if he doesn't retire first.

I really don't know why people are mentioning colour.

It seems as soon as someone does not like Hamilton you are suddenly racist.

I am not a fan of Hamilton at all but it is nothing to do with his race.

I don't mind what he does in his spare time either nor how he dresses "even when it is pretty terrible at times"

It is when things are not going his why and the bottom lip appears.

His persona and attitude has been much better this year but then he is not being challenged in the Mercedes camp.

Lewis has been exceptional in 2017 and he deserved the Championship.

What is wrong with him having a bit of a moody when things aren't going well? People often react in different ways to similar situation. Toys out the pram for some... oh well, tomorrow is another day for others. Driven people wanting to win, what ever there is to win, want to be there to end. Fighting all they way.
We've seen DRic, Max and Vettel bhing when things haven't gone their way... Max had multiple engine woes, his lip was definitely out. Vettel, Mexico last year, all over the radio letting Charlie Whitting know exactly what he thought. His Baku tantrum.
Lewis had a tough season last year... I doubt many in a top line car are going to come out smiling and playing things down with the amount of car trouble he had. I imagine not being able to compete in a lot of the races, to fight for points was frustrating. Have it happen enough times and you are going to let that frustration show shall we say.
Lewis appears to get major grief for being stroppy, where Seb and Max in particular don't... I say that as Lewis just being Lewis, not Lewis the black man. I like to believe the vast majority of Brits really don't care what colour someone is.

[anonymous-user]

DeltonaS said:

By the way it's quite amusing to see that the British press hails Ham and the German press (Auto Motor und Sport) hails the Mercedes engine.

That would be the British engine with a German badge on it, just like the whole car.

[johnxjsc1985]

jsf said:

That would be the British engine with a German badge on it, just like the whole car.

nice one.

[Hungrymc]

Well, I’m amazed by some of the comments.

It was a very good drive from Lewis. Off course the car is a major factor in allowing overtakes, but it was a very good drive. Seb has had some very good recovery drives this year also. And I think the car had a hand in those too. Alonso had a very good drive and the car had a hand in limiting the finish he could achieve.

It’s as if people read “great drive” and see it as a claim that the driver is the best ever on the basis of that one drive and the car plus the rest of their career is irrelevant.

Oh, and I still believe on balance the Ferrari was the better car over the season. There were certainly rounds were the Merc was untouchable, but there were plenty where the Ferrari and Seb clearly had the edge. One driving error and one unlucky mechanical were the cause of the WDC being settled early. Look back the the standings after Hungary, it’s been a great season and such a shame about the spark plug and ‘the crash’

[KevinCamaroSS]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

DeltonaS said:

Epic drive ?

If you've followed the season (and by the way the previous three), you've seen that there's a huge performance gap between the top three teams and rest of the field. It's not even a contest.

Secondly Merc. turned up on Ham's new engine in Brazil. And for the first time this season Ham drove the entire race on full power.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/merce...

RedBull (and the other Renault teams) on the other hand turned down the power because they have a lack of spare parts and have reliability problems.

So No.44 drove around with a more powerfull car than the entire field including his teammate, had two DRS zones on every lap and was gifted three DNF's in the first two laps. And the nature of the track (especially the fast up hill part) did the rest. He overtook cars with a +30 km/h speed difference. Nobody even bothered to defend.

So theirs nothing epic or masterclass about Ham's 4th place, it just a natural outcome of the in difference in performance. He ended where he should've ended.

By the way it's quite amusing to see that the British press hails Ham and the German press (Auto Motor und Sport) hails the Mercedes engine.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11123386/le...

I'll go with the German press this time.

You have to agree with this statement.

The performance advantage was pretty extreme.

Most drivers didn't even bother to try and stop him passing.

This happens year in year out when a top car starts at the back of the field.

Again it shows the gulf between the top teams and even the midfield.

And of course your comments are totally in contradiction to the fact that he was voted driver of the day.

[37chevy]

This forum makes me laugh.

Hamilton wins: ‘he’s in a dominant car, can’t be driver of the day’
Vettel beats an inferior driver in bottas: ‘great drive by Vettel to win’
Verstappen or riccardo overtake lots of people: ‘100% best overtakes out ther, definitely driver of the day’
Hamilton starts from pit lane, overtakes most of the field and finishes 5 seconds behind the race winner: ‘nah he’s st’

[jm doc]

37chevy said:

This forum makes me laugh.

Hamilton wins: ‘he’s in a dominant car, can’t be driver of the day’
Vettel beats an inferior driver in bottas: ‘great drive by Vettel to win’
Verstappen or riccardo overtake lots of people: ‘100% best overtakes out ther, definitely driver of the day’
Hamilton starts from pit lane, overtakes most of the field and finishes 5 seconds behind the race winner: ‘nah he’s st’

This, without a doubt.

[Bo_apex]

37chevy said:

This forum makes me laugh.

Hamilton wins: ‘he’s in a dominant car, can’t be driver of the day’
Vettel beats an inferior driver in bottas: ‘great drive by Vettel to win’
Verstappen or riccardo overtake lots of people: ‘100% best overtakes out ther, definitely driver of the day’
Hamilton starts from pit lane, overtakes most of the field and finishes 5 seconds behind the race winner: ‘nah he’s st’

Don't forget - new race lap record - with a crappy Renault engine. Nah ! He's Dutch...

[37chevy]

Bo_apex said:

Don't forget - new race lap record - with a crappy Renault engine. Nah ! He's Dutch...

Ah yes a crappy Renault engine that kept up with the Ferrari, and a lap record on fresh rubber less than 10 laps from the end of the race :-p

[anonymous-user]

KevinCamaroSS said:

And of course your comments are totally in contradiction to the fact that he was voted driver of the day.

How many drivers actually tried to stop Lewis passing??

Even Alonso didn't bother.