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good point. Perhaps a couple of corners, at most. Mothersruin said:
How long would Maldonado have lasted in the 60's?
Well clearly not long if he drove a 60's GP car like a modern F1 car. But that would apply to anyone, they'd adapt to what's in front of them and either be fast or not. Actually, maybe not in Maldonado's case. I'm saying, tragic fire ball accident on his way to the circuit.
Lewis stated the old cars were like go karts.
Damon Hill, much under rated in my book drove with minimal karting experience yet flew at the front end for many years.
Makes you wonder who would have been good and who wouldn't. Lewis was a complete wizz in karts on minimal money.
I think he'd have been at the front even then we'll in front.
Damon Hill, much under rated in my book drove with minimal karting experience yet flew at the front end for many years.
Makes you wonder who would have been good and who wouldn't. Lewis was a complete wizz in karts on minimal money.
I think he'd have been at the front even then we'll in front.
Sa Calobra said:
Lewis stated the old cars were like go karts.
Damon Hill, much under rated in my book drove with minimal karting experience yet flew at the front end for many years.
Makes you wonder who would have been good and who wouldn't. Lewis was a complete wizz in karts on minimal money.
I think he'd have been at the front even then we'll in front.
Hill was overrated. Damon Hill, much under rated in my book drove with minimal karting experience yet flew at the front end for many years.
Makes you wonder who would have been good and who wouldn't. Lewis was a complete wizz in karts on minimal money.
I think he'd have been at the front even then we'll in front.
Hamilton was backed by Ron and McLaren in his Karting days. Hardly on minimal money.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Hill was overrated.
Hamilton was backed by Ron and McLaren in his Karting days. Hardly on minimal money.
Jim goes around in circles AKA pisses into the wind.Hamilton was backed by Ron and McLaren in his Karting days. Hardly on minimal money.
Hamilton wasn’t backed from the start. He wasn’t born into money like Nico Rosberg was. And so it wasn’t a given that he’d succeed, in Karting / motorsport.
Did Ron just pluck a name out of a hat - or did he support a special talent; a talent that had to continuously deliver - or face losing the backing?
I’ll help you out; Ron didn’t just pluck a name out of a hat
Do you know how many drivers Mclaren have backed / still back, who don’t make it to the top flight?
Let me summarise:
Talent earns backing. Only Special talent keeps it. And only extraordinary talent sees it through to the top flight. Hamilton succeeded at every single level of motorsport. If he hadn’t, he’d have been dust. The same goes for Vettel with red bull who had similar backing from early on.
LDN said:
Let me summarise:
Talent earns backing. Only Special talent keeps it. And only extraordinary talent sees it through to the top flight. Hamilton succeeded at every single level of motorsport. If he hadn’t, he’d have been dust. The same goes for Vettel with red bull who had similar backing from early on.
Yeh I think Jim forgets the 5 years of hard work and racing that Lewis and his dad did before mclaren jumped onboard....Talent earns backing. Only Special talent keeps it. And only extraordinary talent sees it through to the top flight. Hamilton succeeded at every single level of motorsport. If he hadn’t, he’d have been dust. The same goes for Vettel with red bull who had similar backing from early on.
LDN said:
Jim goes around in circles AKA pisses into the wind.
Hamilton wasn’t backed from the start. He wasn’t born into money like Nico Rosberg was. And so it wasn’t a given that he’d succeed, in Karting / motorsport.
Did Ron just pluck a name out of a hat - or did he support a special talent; a talent that had to continuously deliver - or face losing the backing?
I’ll help you out; Ron didn’t just pluck a name out of a hat
Do you know how many drivers Mclaren have backed / still back, who don’t make it to the top flight?
Let me summarise:
Talent earns backing. Only Special talent keeps it. And only extraordinary talent sees it through to the top flight. Hamilton succeeded at every single level of motorsport. If he hadn’t, he’d have been dust. The same goes for Vettel with red bull who had similar backing from early on.
Anyone who thinks Hamilton had no money then clearly has never raced Karts.Hamilton wasn’t backed from the start. He wasn’t born into money like Nico Rosberg was. And so it wasn’t a given that he’d succeed, in Karting / motorsport.
Did Ron just pluck a name out of a hat - or did he support a special talent; a talent that had to continuously deliver - or face losing the backing?
I’ll help you out; Ron didn’t just pluck a name out of a hat
Do you know how many drivers Mclaren have backed / still back, who don’t make it to the top flight?
Let me summarise:
Talent earns backing. Only Special talent keeps it. And only extraordinary talent sees it through to the top flight. Hamilton succeeded at every single level of motorsport. If he hadn’t, he’d have been dust. The same goes for Vettel with red bull who had similar backing from early on.
For one years racing you are talking about £20,000 to £30,000 thousand and that is only if things are going well.
I hate to think what the costs would be now.
Anthony Hamilton had a very successful IT business in the mid 90's so he is not exactly someone who was struggling.
Lewis was extremely fortunate that his father was prepared to re-mortgaged his house and spend the life savings of the families to allow Lewis to race.
It was a massive gamble "which you have to applaud"
But to state he came from nothing is far fetched.
If you came from nothing you would not be "however talented" able to fund even buying a Kart.
Oh and how did Hamilton pay his father back??
Lewis Hamilton promised to give his father Anthony up to $4million when they split as manager and client in 2010 but the money was never paid, the High Court heard.
Anthony Hamilton went to great lengths to accommodate the expected money — setting up an off-shore account in the name of his own father Davidson, Lewis’s grandfather — only for the driver to renege on the arrangement.
So Hamilton back stabbed Ron and his own father who both funded his career.
What a top bloke
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 10th March 15:08
37chevy said:
To add balance, how many f1 drivers were on ‘minimal money’ in their karting days.
You honestly think Hamilton was on "minimal money"PMSL.
If he was he would not be racing.
£20,000 to £30,000 a year if a low figure.
What hard up family can afford that bill??
His father took big risks but he had savings and a very good IT business.
Overall they would have had less than say a Rosberg but come on.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 10th March 15:09
Also JIM as you’re being rather selective over the Di Resta case, I’d again like to balance out your argument with the fact Anthony did get paid....https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-did-pay-father-former-manager-anthony/
Agreed, Lewis is a top bloke, paying his dad 5 million
Agreed, Lewis is a top bloke, paying his dad 5 million
http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/tommy...
Clearly his fashion sense is appreciated by some.
Clearly his fashion sense is appreciated by some.
37chevy said:
Also JIM as you’re being rather selective over the Di Resta case, I’d again like to balance out your argument with the fact Anthony did get paid....https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-did-pay-father-former-manager-anthony/
Agreed, Lewis is a top bloke, paying his dad 5 million
So Anthony basically lied in court?Agreed, Lewis is a top bloke, paying his dad 5 million
Or did they make a deal before turning up again?
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Anthony Hamilton changes his statement in court.
Lewis Hamilton's father and former manager has admitted he actually was paid by the 2008 world champion.
Last week, as Anthony Hamilton sues his former charge Paul di Resta for wrongful dismissal, he said in court that he was never paid by his son Lewis when he handled the first few seasons of his famous Formula One career.
"I never asked Lewis for a penny," Hamilton snr had told the London court.
But as a new week of testimony kicked off, Anthony Hamilton has admitted he was in fact paid three million pounds ($5 million) by his son, who now drives for Mercedes.
"I completely forgot there was an agreement between Lewis' company and my company," Anthony told the court.
"He (Lewis) maintained to pay HMG (Hamilton Management Group) half a million pounds a year until 2012," he added.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Anyone who thinks Hamilton had no money then clearly has never raced Karts.
For one years racing you are talking about £20,000 to £30,000 thousand and that is only if things are going well.
I hate to think what the costs would be now.
Anthony Hamilton had a very successful IT business in the mid 90's so he is not exactly someone who was struggling.
Lewis was extremely fortunate that his father was prepared to re-mortgaged his house and spend the life savings of the families to allow Lewis to race.
It was a massive gamble "which you have to applaud"
But to state he came from nothing is far fetched.
If you came from nothing you would not be "however talented" able to fund even buying a Kart.
Oh and how did Hamilton pay his father back??
Lewis Hamilton promised to give his father Anthony up to $4million when they split as manager and client in 2010 but the money was never paid, the High Court heard.
Anthony Hamilton went to great lengths to accommodate the expected money — setting up an off-shore account in the name of his own father Davidson, Lewis’s grandfather — only for the driver to renege on the arrangement.
So Hamilton back stabbed Ron and his own father who both funded his career.
What a top bloke
Quoted in case any libel lawyers want to have a look.For one years racing you are talking about £20,000 to £30,000 thousand and that is only if things are going well.
I hate to think what the costs would be now.
Anthony Hamilton had a very successful IT business in the mid 90's so he is not exactly someone who was struggling.
Lewis was extremely fortunate that his father was prepared to re-mortgaged his house and spend the life savings of the families to allow Lewis to race.
It was a massive gamble "which you have to applaud"
But to state he came from nothing is far fetched.
If you came from nothing you would not be "however talented" able to fund even buying a Kart.
Oh and how did Hamilton pay his father back??
Lewis Hamilton promised to give his father Anthony up to $4million when they split as manager and client in 2010 but the money was never paid, the High Court heard.
Anthony Hamilton went to great lengths to accommodate the expected money — setting up an off-shore account in the name of his own father Davidson, Lewis’s grandfather — only for the driver to renege on the arrangement.
So Hamilton back stabbed Ron and his own father who both funded his career.
What a top bloke
Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Saturday 10th March 15:08
ELUSIVEJIM said:
http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-features/tommy...
Clearly his fashion sense is appreciated by some.
And you pull that out of no where! What has that really got to do with anything...?Clearly his fashion sense is appreciated by some.
If Anthony Hamilton was doing so well why was he working 3 or 4 jobs for Lewis to go Karting?
It really didn't take you long to get back on the slaughtering Lewis trail eh. You never did answer my question either... You clearly do not like formula 1 now, had the racing, hate the cars. Modern F1 isn't for you yet here you are moaning about it day in, day out. Why do you bother?
HighwayStar said:
And you pull that out of no where! What has that really got to do with anything...?
If Anthony Hamilton was doing so well why was he working 3 or 4 jobs for Lewis to go Karting?
It really didn't take you long to get back on the slaughtering Lewis trail eh. You never did answer my question either... You clearly do not like formula 1 now, had the racing, hate the cars. Modern F1 isn't for you yet here you are moaning about it day in, day out. Why do you bother?
It's social media. You type in F1 and you get these articles. If Anthony Hamilton was doing so well why was he working 3 or 4 jobs for Lewis to go Karting?
It really didn't take you long to get back on the slaughtering Lewis trail eh. You never did answer my question either... You clearly do not like formula 1 now, had the racing, hate the cars. Modern F1 isn't for you yet here you are moaning about it day in, day out. Why do you bother?
To be honest so articles state he had a great IT business and then the next he was working 3/4 jobs. Who to believe.
Slating Lewis? Never.
Lewis has a new line being prepared for sale through Hilfiger
ELUSIVEJIM said:
It's social media. You type in F1 and you get these articles.
To be honest so articles state he had a great IT business and then the next he was working 3/4 jobs. Who to believe.
Slating Lewis? Never.
Lewis has a new line being prepared for sale through Hilfiger
Design by Hamilton To be honest so articles state he had a great IT business and then the next he was working 3/4 jobs. Who to believe.
Slating Lewis? Never.
Lewis has a new line being prepared for sale through Hilfiger
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