Lewis Hamilton
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Hamilton's pole lap in full.
Car and Lewis look mega.
Bottas needs to learn how to drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20YjED5gTc
+ 1Car and Lewis look mega.
Bottas needs to learn how to drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20YjED5gTc
I think that Hamilton has reach a new level of qualification lap.
Senna was good at it, but not that good.
E34-3.2 said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Hamilton's pole lap in full.
Car and Lewis look mega.
Bottas needs to learn how to drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20YjED5gTc
+ 1Car and Lewis look mega.
Bottas needs to learn how to drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20YjED5gTc
I think that Hamilton has reach a new level of qualification lap.
Senna was good at it, but not that good.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Leroy902 said:
I think you'll find in this instance, it REALLY is because he's BLACK!.
The mindset of the 'average' person in Britain is he's from a family that came over and immigrated to the UK. The UK is the reason he is where he is today, so he has a duty to pay his taxes to benefit the country and its people.
The likes of Jenson and Co are FREE to do as they please.
WOW.The mindset of the 'average' person in Britain is he's from a family that came over and immigrated to the UK. The UK is the reason he is where he is today, so he has a duty to pay his taxes to benefit the country and its people.
The likes of Jenson and Co are FREE to do as they please.
You really love to bring the race card out whenever possible.
Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Friday 23 March 17:57
It may be getting used, and no doubt it may be used in the future as I DO BELIEVE it's obvious in this case.
What are people supposed to do, NOT point out the colour of someone's skin is the reason for something?, even though it is FFS. Get a grip.
Its a sad state of affairs, but it's the only explanation as to why Lewis has/does/will always get slack for something like living in a tax haven and being criticised/constantly being pointed out by F1 fans on PH and the public whilst every other drivers (past, present and no doubt future) tax dodging affairs will he ignored.
If anyone can think of another reason, please... Do share. And don't just clutch at straws and say something random like it's because he has ambitions to become a rap star.
E34-3.2 said:
+ 1
I think that Hamilton has reach a new level of qualification lap.
Senna was good at it, but not that good.
Taking things a bit far there.I think that Hamilton has reach a new level of qualification lap.
Senna was good at it, but not that good.
Senna was 1.5 seconds faster than Prost in the same car which is on another level considering how good Prost was.
If say Alonso was in the Mercedes alongside Hamilton and he pulled 1.5 seconds out of him then your talking.
Leroy902 said:
I do believe this to be the case. And don't just roll your eyes and say 'oh the race card is being used again'...
It may be getting used, and no doubt it may be used in the future as I DO BELIEVE it's obvious in this case.
What are people supposed to do, NOT point out the colour of someone's skin is the reason for something?, even though it is FFS. Get a grip.
Its a sad state of affairs, but it's the only explanation as to why Lewis has/does/will always get slack for something like living in a tax haven and being criticised/constantly being pointed out by F1 fans on PH and the public whilst every other drivers (past, present and no doubt future) tax dodging affairs will he ignored.
If anyone can think of another reason, please... Do share. And don't just clutch at straws and say something random like it's because he has ambitions to become a rap star.
Hamilton is a different personality since he has joined Mercedes which is helping his persona with the public.It may be getting used, and no doubt it may be used in the future as I DO BELIEVE it's obvious in this case.
What are people supposed to do, NOT point out the colour of someone's skin is the reason for something?, even though it is FFS. Get a grip.
Its a sad state of affairs, but it's the only explanation as to why Lewis has/does/will always get slack for something like living in a tax haven and being criticised/constantly being pointed out by F1 fans on PH and the public whilst every other drivers (past, present and no doubt future) tax dodging affairs will he ignored.
If anyone can think of another reason, please... Do share. And don't just clutch at straws and say something random like it's because he has ambitions to become a rap star.
Having a car that good for so long will help matter greatly to one's confidence and happiness.
This and growing up has shown a different side to him but I guarantee IF someone is able to compete with the Lewis/Mercedes combination that side will return.
Many people remember Hamilton when things were not going his way and this is why they continue to dislike him.
Unfortunately as will all things in the World there are elements of racists who hate someone just because of there skin colour.
This is inbreed from a young age so unless the cycle is broken it will always exist.
You can see the same with football and the hatred for a rival teams supporters.
Only yesterday the abuse and vulgar actions of English fans in Amsterdam was shocking to see but the British press decide to ignore this.
Celtic and Ranger up here in Scotland still hate each other and that is purely down to religion.
None of the above is right but unfortunately it will never be stopped however much we try.
Some people just love to hate.
LDN said:
Ferrari do start well though... so tomorrow could be another story!
I am sure Ferrari are not happy that their number one is stuck behind Kimi.The race could be totally different as we all know. Will the rain appear?
Is the Ferrari easier on it's tyres?
Questions questions but I think Hamilton has this in the bag.
travel is dangerous said:
I saw a few posts earlier on saying that senna, mansell et al didn't have 'party mode'.
just wanted to point out that what they had instead was a whole 'party car' that was totally different to the race car, different setup, etc. etc., engine included.
Yes exactly. Totally different beast for qualifying compared to the race car.just wanted to point out that what they had instead was a whole 'party car' that was totally different to the race car, different setup, etc. etc., engine included.
It must have been a disappointment driving the race car when it was on fuel saving and much less power.
A turn on party mode in the same car would be much better than trying to qualify and race in cars which could feel totally different.
Leroy902 said:
I do believe this to be the case. And don't just roll your eyes and say 'oh the race card is being used again'...
It may be getting used, and no doubt it may be used in the future as I DO BELIEVE it's obvious in this case.
What are people supposed to do, NOT point out the colour of someone's skin is the reason for something?, even though it is FFS. Get a grip.
Its a sad state of affairs, but it's the only explanation as to why Lewis has/does/will always get slack for something like living in a tax haven and being criticised/constantly being pointed out by F1 fans on PH and the public whilst every other drivers (past, present and no doubt future) tax dodging affairs will he ignored.
If anyone can think of another reason, please... Do share. And don't just clutch at straws and say something random like it's because he has ambitions to become a rap star.
Sorry, you’re wrong.It may be getting used, and no doubt it may be used in the future as I DO BELIEVE it's obvious in this case.
What are people supposed to do, NOT point out the colour of someone's skin is the reason for something?, even though it is FFS. Get a grip.
Its a sad state of affairs, but it's the only explanation as to why Lewis has/does/will always get slack for something like living in a tax haven and being criticised/constantly being pointed out by F1 fans on PH and the public whilst every other drivers (past, present and no doubt future) tax dodging affairs will he ignored.
If anyone can think of another reason, please... Do share. And don't just clutch at straws and say something random like it's because he has ambitions to become a rap star.
Derek Warwick was very interesting today, I guess he’s another also ran who knows nothing according to those who’ve been watching F1 for only the past 5-10 years. He basically said the sport was boring, that LH was uninterested in press conferences, bit of a princess and that the genuine enthusiasm for the sport is less than MotoGP. He did point out that Hamilton was great for F1 and the corporate sponsors and that his outbursts got the sport press, cant argue with that. All you have to do is look at Marquez last weekend, after a second place he was still all smiles and just exuded a love for the thrill of it.
Sadly people just can’t accept the criticism, or others point of view.
yonex said:
Sorry, you’re wrong.
Derek Warwick was very interesting today, I guess he’s another also ran who knows nothing according to those who’ve been watching F1 for only the past 5-10 years. He basically said the sport was boring, that LH was uninterested in press conferences, bit of a princess and that the genuine enthusiasm for the sport is less than MotoGP. He did point out that Hamilton was great for F1 and the corporate sponsors and that his outbursts got the sport press, cant argue with that. All you have to do is look at Marquez last weekend, after a second place he was still all smiles and just exuded a love for the thrill of it.
Sadly people just can’t accept the criticism, or others point of view.
A few points that spring to mind (none of which are meant to devalue Derek’s comments). Derek Warwick was very interesting today, I guess he’s another also ran who knows nothing according to those who’ve been watching F1 for only the past 5-10 years. He basically said the sport was boring, that LH was uninterested in press conferences, bit of a princess and that the genuine enthusiasm for the sport is less than MotoGP. He did point out that Hamilton was great for F1 and the corporate sponsors and that his outbursts got the sport press, cant argue with that. All you have to do is look at Marquez last weekend, after a second place he was still all smiles and just exuded a love for the thrill of it.
Sadly people just can’t accept the criticism, or others point of view.
There seems to have often been an inclination for Derek to take the negative view of Lewis, he’s entitled to do this. From criticizing the move to Merc to some of the stewarding interactions, I think there is some tension there, but as I said none of that means Derek shouldn’t say what he does.
MotoGP is very different to F1. It’s far less “corporate” than F1 even though it is getting ever more corporate and all these commercial issues which are peripheral to the race were enough to see Stonor off. I honestly think MotoGP is still about a love of bike racing whereas F1 is so much more about the “event”. I’d say even more striking than young Marc last week was the old man Rossi who was maybe even more happy and had finished 3rd.
On the general subject of Lewis, I think the main reason behind the dislike that some have is that he’s a bit naive politically. Seb can deliberately drive into him and still have the world thinking the unshaven Seb is a really funny guy. Seb can ask what was happening before the final run today and it’s banter - then Lewis drops the “waiting to wipe that smile off your face” line and it all suddenly feels a bit serious and a bit spikey.... It is always serious and spikey but some are better at hiding it behind a happy public persona which Lewis can’t or won’t do.
Hungrymc said:
A few points that spring to mind (none of which are meant to devalue Derek’s comments).
There seems to have often been an inclination for Derek to take the negative view of Lewis, he’s entitled to do this. From criticizing the move to Merc to some of the stewarding interactions, I think there is some tension there, but as I said none of that means Derek shouldn’t say what he does.
MotoGP is very different to F1. It’s far less “corporate” than F1 even though it is getting ever more corporate and all these commercial issues which are peripheral to the race were enough to see Stonor off. I honestly think MotoGP is still about a love of bike racing whereas F1 is so much more about the “event”. I’d say even more striking than young Marc last week was the old man Rossi who was maybe even more happy and had finished 3rd.
On the general subject of Lewis, I think the main reason behind the dislike that some have is that he’s a bit naive politically. Seb can deliberately drive into him and still have the world thinking the unshaven Seb is a really funny guy. Seb can ask what was happening before the final run today and it’s banter - then Lewis drops the “waiting to wipe that smile off your face” line and it all suddenly feels a bit serious and a bit spikey.... It is always serious and spikey but some are better at hiding it behind a happy public persona which Lewis can’t or won’t do.
Yes, in MotoGP you can be happy to finish 2nd because it's real racing - you can be passed on the last lap and it's been a great race. In F1 if you are passed on the last lap someone has fThere seems to have often been an inclination for Derek to take the negative view of Lewis, he’s entitled to do this. From criticizing the move to Merc to some of the stewarding interactions, I think there is some tension there, but as I said none of that means Derek shouldn’t say what he does.
MotoGP is very different to F1. It’s far less “corporate” than F1 even though it is getting ever more corporate and all these commercial issues which are peripheral to the race were enough to see Stonor off. I honestly think MotoGP is still about a love of bike racing whereas F1 is so much more about the “event”. I’d say even more striking than young Marc last week was the old man Rossi who was maybe even more happy and had finished 3rd.
On the general subject of Lewis, I think the main reason behind the dislike that some have is that he’s a bit naive politically. Seb can deliberately drive into him and still have the world thinking the unshaven Seb is a really funny guy. Seb can ask what was happening before the final run today and it’s banter - then Lewis drops the “waiting to wipe that smile off your face” line and it all suddenly feels a bit serious and a bit spikey.... It is always serious and spikey but some are better at hiding it behind a happy public persona which Lewis can’t or won’t do.
ked up.MotoGP and F1 are about a similar as football and ice-hockey.
jonnyb said:
Anyone who sat through the Schumacher years wouldn’t call this era boring. At least the Merc guys are allowed to race.
I have loved F1 since Mansells tyre blew out in Adelaide. Now is not boring. I just whiz they would get rid of DRS and the qualifying set up. Go back to how it was.
He was possibly the greatest driver of all time, but people thought it was boring? Let’s be honest. People watch F1 for incidents and overtaking, there are fewer opportunities with modern aero and genuinely very few characters. I’d argue modern F1 is the worst it’s ever been. Agree on qualifying, and preferred the old format of pit stops. But until they give the cars mechanical grip it’ll be like watching paint dry. Anyway, a different topic entirely. I have loved F1 since Mansells tyre blew out in Adelaide. Now is not boring. I just whiz they would get rid of DRS and the qualifying set up. Go back to how it was.
Interesting you mentioned Schumacher though. I remember him being slagged off all the time, mainly by British ‘fans’
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