Lewis Hamilton

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Piginapoke

4,791 posts

186 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I think people would have a lot more empathy for LH if he wasn’t such a dick.

Leroy902

1,541 posts

104 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Piginapoke said:
I think people would have a lot more empathy for LH if he wasn’t such a dick.
What are you on about now?

The Vambo

6,670 posts

142 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Piginapoke said:
I think people would have a lot more empathy for LH if he wasn’t such a dick.
People who are lacking enough in self-awareness that they have an opinion on whether or not a guy they have never met is a dick without realising that everything they think they know about him has been through multiple filters, each with their own biases are pretty much guaranteed to be fking idiots.

So it isn't a big loss for Lewis Hamilton.

Edited by The Vambo on Saturday 28th April 20:24

majordad

3,604 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I'm not an admirer of Lewis, but he's certainly not a dick, or anything approaching it. He's one of the best drivers out there, and perhaps will even prove to be the best but that depends on how he competes in a car in future that's not the best on the grid.

Vaud

50,749 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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The Vambo said:
People who are lacking enough in self-awareness that they have an opinion on whether or not a guy they have never met is a dick without realising that everything they think they know about him has been through multiple filters, each with their own biases are pretty much guaranteed to be fking idiots.

So it isn't a big loss for Lewis Hamilton.

Edited by The Vambo on Saturday 28th April 20:24
I have met him and he was very friendly. However I think that he sometimes gets himself into a negative cycle which gets amplified by the press - he never built up the “defensive layers” in the way, say, Schumacher did.

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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No doubt he's a great driver. Problem I have with him and a lot of his fans is the constant going on about his background. He/They make out like he came from a ghetto and had to sell his soul to get on the track. Loads of other drivers who made it to F1 and didn't have had it far worse.

KevinCamaroSS

11,679 posts

281 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Kraken said:
No doubt he's a great driver. Problem I have with him and a lot of his fans is the constant going on about his background. He/They make out like he came from a ghetto and had to sell his soul to get on the track. Loads of other drivers who made it to F1 and didn't have had it far worse.
What are you on about? I cannot remember the last time LH mentioned his early days.

Go on then, tell me of any recent driver who was brought up in a council house (or equivalent) whose father worked multiple jobs to pay for the karting.

Vaud

50,749 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
What are you on about? I cannot remember the last time LH mentioned his early days.

Go on then, tell me of any recent driver who was brought up in a council house (or equivalent) whose father worked multiple jobs to pay for the karting.
Vettel's dad was/is a carpenter. His mum was/is a housewife.

HighwayStar

4,329 posts

145 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Kraken said:
No doubt he's a great driver. Problem I have with him and a lot of his fans is the constant going on about his background. He/They make out like he came from a ghetto and had to sell his soul to get on the track. Loads of other drivers who made it to F1 and didn't have had it far worse.
Seriously, you’ve made that up... nobody, not even Lewis, said he came from the ghetto. He came from a council estate in Stevenage... his dad worked 3 jobs, that’s all he’s ever said.
If he came from the ghetto his dad wouldn’t have had 3 jobs!!!
Vettel, his dad was a cabinet maker... his own small business.
Where does this latest round of have a pop at Lewis come from, what controversy surrounds him this weekend?

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Good god to people ever read what is posted? I said "they make out like" not that he actually said that, although many of his fans have on forums all over the internet.

Try reading some autobiographies of other racing drivers and see the struggles they went through in their teens without all their racing being paid for by an F1 team.

His Mum lived on a council estate. Hamilton lived with his dad who was an IT manager and then had his own computing consultancy business. Having done exactly the same job at the same time I was well into the top 5% of wage earners in the UK as he should have been unless he was rubbish at his job.

Doing multiple jobs is no different to many other karting families who sacrifice everything. I know many who have re-mortgaged over and over plus doing multiple jobs. It doesn't make him special. Just the same as many, many others.

I know people who were in the karting paddock before McLaren signed Hamilton and he had one of the biggest campervans in the paddock then according to then.

swisstoni

17,116 posts

280 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Kraken said:
Problem I have with him and a lot of his fans is the constant going on about his background. He/They make out like he came from a ghetto and had to sell his soul to get on the track.
Read it. ^

It’s pretty clear what you said. You said that Hamilton is constantly going on about his background (as are his fans).


HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Kraken said:
Good god to people ever read what is posted? I said "they make out like" not that he actually said that, although many of his fans have on forums all over the internet.

Try reading some autobiographies of other racing drivers and see the struggles they went through in their teens without all their racing being paid for by an F1 team.

His Mum lived on a council estate. Hamilton lived with his dad who was an IT manager and then had his own computing consultancy business. Having done exactly the same job at the same time I was well into the top 5% of wage earners in the UK as he should have been unless he was rubbish at his job.

Doing multiple jobs is no different to many other karting families who sacrifice everything. I know many who have re-mortgaged over and over plus doing multiple jobs. It doesn't make him special. Just the same as many, many others.

I know people who were in the karting paddock before McLaren signed Hamilton and he had one of the biggest campervans in the paddock then according to then.
I think the problem is in your head.

KevinCamaroSS

11,679 posts

281 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Kraken said:
Hamilton lived with his dad who was an IT manager and then had his own computing consultancy business. Having done exactly the same job at the same time I was well into the top 5% of wage earners in the UK as he should have been unless he was rubbish at his job.
No way is an IT manager or computer consultant anywhere near the top 5% of wage earners in the UK. I say that speaking from experience, top 30% probably.

Vaud

50,749 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
No way is an IT manager or computer consultant anywhere near the top 5% of wage earners in the UK. I say that speaking from experience, top 30% probably.
Percentile points from 1 to 99 for total income before and after tax easily puts IT managers in the top 5%; definitely in the late 90s; probably in the more recent years.



Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentil...

liner33

10,704 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
No way is an IT manager or computer consultant anywhere near the top 5% of wage earners in the UK. I say that speaking from experience, top 30% probably.
£70k puts someone in the top 5% of wage earners , do IT managers not earn £70k ?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Kraken said:
Hamilton lived with his dad who was an IT manager and then had his own computing consultancy business. Having done exactly the same job at the same time I was well into the top 5% of wage earners in the UK as he should have been unless he was rubbish at his job.
No way is an IT manager or computer consultant anywhere near the top 5% of wage earners in the UK. I say that speaking from experience, top 30% probably.
Depends if tax evading.... wink

37chevy

3,280 posts

157 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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TTmonkey said:
Depends if tax evading.... wink
Avoiding. There’s a difference

Sa Calobra

37,236 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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MartinVert said:
Interestin'
how when Hamilton doesn't win
His army of apologists begin
To express their chagrin
with a plethora of built in
Excuses designed to underpin
The idea that somehow he's oppressed, that he's the best
driver
Suggestin' protest, acting like the sport's regressed, requesting another road test
Why not just take it on the chin?

If the man can't outwit
the pit
strategy of Vettel
His fans come out throwing a fit
'It was unfair' they cry about this
tax hypocrite
Submitting emitting unfit bits of guff about how it shouldn't be permitted
How do you not get it?
Foot in mouth post.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Lewis thinks Vettel broke the rules.

Thoughts?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/43947684

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Whiting doesn’t.
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