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He calls them cheats because they crash into him and Bottas to gain a points advantages for the championship.
I don't believe it was anything else before you defend Ferrari and their drivers. Rosberg did it to Hamilton at Spa. It was blindingly obvious.
If I were Charlie Whiting or whoever runs the rules and regs, I'd ensure drivers and teams were penalised if this affected the championship standings in Ferraris favour. Even a whiff of impropriety. I'd wipe their race points off straight away to level the field again and ensure they learn it won't help in future.
I don't believe it was anything else before you defend Ferrari and their drivers. Rosberg did it to Hamilton at Spa. It was blindingly obvious.
If I were Charlie Whiting or whoever runs the rules and regs, I'd ensure drivers and teams were penalised if this affected the championship standings in Ferraris favour. Even a whiff of impropriety. I'd wipe their race points off straight away to level the field again and ensure they learn it won't help in future.
Evangelion said:
Thanks a f
king bunch, I was looking forward to watching that. tt.
What kind of eejit comes onto the PH F1 forum several hours after the race has finished and then gets pissed because they lean the result before they’ve have chance to watch the highlights?king bunch, I was looking forward to watching that. tt.It really doesn’t take an awful lot of anticipation to work out that some people may already have seen the finish and might actually be discussion it
The fact that Lewis qualified 14th was always going to generate some comment, regardless of where he finished, so there was always a strong chance that this thread would reveal the answer.
As a C4 viewer, I stay away from radio and TV for races where only highlights are shown
Edited by Nigel_O on Sunday 22 July 21:57
fakenews said:
Graveworm said:
I am curious if you could tell us about how you coped with winning 4 F1 world titles with 2 manufacturers and leading the current championship? Was it hard having everything you do analysed and being in a constant media spotlight? How did it compare to when you put in the most dominant ever performance in F3 (Where the cars make very little difference and when you were racing Vettel?). Since most people, who have walked the walk and driven the cars rate Hamilton as a driver is it OK if I value their opinion ahead of yours?
I never had the car...I have one testicle (DFS furniture incident explained elsewhere on here - my own fault) yet haven't cried about it - Lewis finishes 2nd in a race where he f
ked up the start, sulks following the race and then calls his competitors cheats. He's not doing doing anything right except occasionally driving the fastest (this year) car to easy wins. As for past history, are you going to include the fact Rosberg beat him to the WDC (almost twice)? The fact he threw away a championship with Alonso. Was gifted one against Massa? Gifted the victory today by Bottas too...Re fans, some of you might want to see what Alonso did this weekend with one of his fans. Incredible scenes Hamilton couldn't hope to stage...I mean replicate. He couldn't give a stuff about his fans or his country, his actions have shown as much and he's as genuine as my Burberry y-fronts. He just wants attention.
You need to be more objective. He's had the series to himself the past few years and F1 has suffered because of it. He's never going to be a Senna, Prost, Clark, Schumacher or Alonso. He can be a Mansell if he wants, another over-rated Englishman who accrued stats through luck.
astonishing! Almost everything you’ve said is plain wrong and shows an utter lack of knowledge. Alonso himself rates Hamilton as an all time great. Are Mercedes throwing money at Lewis for fun? Losing a testicle has played havoc with your head methinks. fakenews said:
I never had the car...
I have one testicle (DFS furniture incident explained elsewhere on here - my own fault) yet haven't cried about it - Lewis finishes 2nd in a race where he fked up the start, sulks following the race and then calls his competitors cheats. He's not doing doing anything right except occasionally driving the fastest (this year) car to easy wins. As for past history, are you going to include the fact Rosberg beat him to the WDC (almost twice)? The fact he threw away a championship with Alonso. Was gifted one against Massa? Gifted the victory today by Bottas too...
Re fans, some of you might want to see what Alonso did this weekend with one of his fans. Incredible scenes Hamilton couldn't hope to stage...I mean replicate. He couldn't give a stuff about his fans or his country, his actions have shown as much and he's as genuine as my Burberry y-fronts. He just wants attention.
You need to be more objective. He's had the series to himself the past few years and F1 has suffered because of it. He's never going to be a Senna, Prost, Clark, Schumacher or Alonso. He can be a Mansell if he wants, another over-rated Englishman who accrued stats through luck.
Sorry is there an answer to my question in there or was it just you again expressing your (Valid in it's own way) opinion? To clarify, what I was interested in was: is there is some reason why your opinion is more relevant than the former F1 drivers, acknowledged experts and champions who disagree with you?? I have one testicle (DFS furniture incident explained elsewhere on here - my own fault) yet haven't cried about it - Lewis finishes 2nd in a race where he f
ked up the start, sulks following the race and then calls his competitors cheats. He's not doing doing anything right except occasionally driving the fastest (this year) car to easy wins. As for past history, are you going to include the fact Rosberg beat him to the WDC (almost twice)? The fact he threw away a championship with Alonso. Was gifted one against Massa? Gifted the victory today by Bottas too...Re fans, some of you might want to see what Alonso did this weekend with one of his fans. Incredible scenes Hamilton couldn't hope to stage...I mean replicate. He couldn't give a stuff about his fans or his country, his actions have shown as much and he's as genuine as my Burberry y-fronts. He just wants attention.
You need to be more objective. He's had the series to himself the past few years and F1 has suffered because of it. He's never going to be a Senna, Prost, Clark, Schumacher or Alonso. He can be a Mansell if he wants, another over-rated Englishman who accrued stats through luck.
As a follow up, with all the contrary expert opinion and evidence out there, have you any insight into why they can't all see the truth that you can and how you have ruled out confirmation bias?
Edited by Graveworm on Sunday 22 July 22:12
He can be a Mansell if he wants, another over-rated Englishman who accrued stats through luck.
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Interesting.
My Portuguese cousin said he stopped watching F1 after mansell retired. Feared he would never witness such masterly driving.
'In Italy he became known as "il leone" ("the lion") by the tifosi because of his fearless driving style.'
Have to say I am in agreement as he said he was an astonishing driver. Risked all and was hugely entertaining, barring his monotone interviewing of course
Good to get a foreign perspective ...
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Interesting.
My Portuguese cousin said he stopped watching F1 after mansell retired. Feared he would never witness such masterly driving.
'In Italy he became known as "il leone" ("the lion") by the tifosi because of his fearless driving style.'
Have to say I am in agreement as he said he was an astonishing driver. Risked all and was hugely entertaining, barring his monotone interviewing of course
Good to get a foreign perspective ...
Derek Smith said:
toastyhamster said:
I really want to like Ham, but I just can't (beyond patriotism), his sulks and general lifestyle just aren't endearing.
You care about his general lifestyle? Isn't his driving enough?His driving is enough to admire him for his driving.
His lifestyle doesn't make me admire him for his lifestyle. (It's his choice, that fine. He feels free to criticise people on twitter when he sees something that doesn't gel with him, I feel free to criticise him when he does something that doesn't gel with me. That's life.)
Having the ability to hold two opposing opinions about the same person/thing/concept, isn't that hard for most people.
Vaccines. Saving millions of people, (good I admire that). Vaccines. Killing a tiny minority, (bad thing I'd prefer didn't happen).
Do we not acknowledge the bad thing at all. Should we never discuss it to see if it can create pressure to make sure things are as good as they can be? I hardly think so.
Same concept. Far less important about Lewis. But same concept. Things I admire, and things I don't. All in one tiny capsule of life.
LDN said:
Hill and Brundle both said the Ferrari have stolen a march and have the better car now.
Not much debate to be had; Mercedes will hopefully close the gap and be back even.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-motor-f1-germany-mercedes/mercedes-still-fastest-despite-lost-points-wolff-idUKKBN1K7124Not much debate to be had; Mercedes will hopefully close the gap and be back even.
Graveworm said:
Sorry is there an answer to my question in there or was it just you again expressing your (Valid in it's own way) opinion? To clarify, what I was interested in was: is there is some reason why your opinion is more relevant than the former F1 drivers, acknowledged experts and champions who disagree with you??
As a follow up, with all the contrary expert opinion and evidence out there, have you any insight into why they can't all see the truth that you can and how you have ruled out confirmation bias?
Lewis is British and winning, who do you think our commentators (and other successful British drivers) are going to show support for? If your knowledge of F1 is beyond reproach, you'll realise that unless the British press suck the actual semen from his two testicles (how I miss my own) he threatens to never speak to them again.As a follow up, with all the contrary expert opinion and evidence out there, have you any insight into why they can't all see the truth that you can and how you have ruled out confirmation bias?
Here he finds issue with our Press when they question his use of Snapchat - his reaction shows little respect for the people who also work in F1:
https://jalopnik.com/lewis-hamilton-walks-out-of-p...
I see something different and it's not as if I'm alone - I too used to think Lewis was brilliant. However, you seem to be in denial and that's good, it's the beginning of your journey to recovery. I suspect you'll cry a little and may even flirt with supporting Stroll, which you must resist. This is all normal. If you need someone to talk to or just a hand to hold as you burn your Hamilton memorabilia whilst humming along to The Chain I'm here for you.
I'm off to watch the highlights from David Coulthard's career...back in ten.
Hamilton is crap, Mercedes are pissing money up the wall; and you’ve rumbled him. Shhhh! Don’t let the secret get out. 
fakenews said:
He can be a Mansell if he wants, another over-rated Englishman who accrued stats through luck.
This is an attempt at humour yes? Mansell may have been a boring Brummie, but he had arguably two of the greatest ever in F1 as rivals not to mention Piquet, another three time WC. He financed his own career and even remortgaged his house as a last ditch attempt to stay in F1. Everyone who is anyone in F1 at the time, including Senna, say he was one of the greatest overtakers the sport has ever seen. I think he had a lot of bad luck in his career and could easily have been a deserved 3 time WC, but for a few incidents where things outside of his control gifted the WCs to other drivers. To describe him as over-rated is not to understand the sport as it was then, but I guess most on here haven't watched for long.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff