Lewis Hamilton

[768]

Yeah, if EJ hadn't said that it probably would have happened, but there are universal constants to maintain.

[Deesee]

REALIST123 said:

Hungrymc said:

Mr Tidy said:

And EJ didn't infer anything - he may have implied it! Grammar police.

lol.... That was my grammatical error, it’s not a strength of mine. My thinking was that Eddie concluded max’s lap was better (based on very flawed logic). I thought that was inference but I’m normally wrong when it comes to spelling, grammar....... and F1 predictions :-)

You’re not necessarily wrong.

As Eddie couldn’t possibly have explicit data or facts to reach his conclusion it’s highly likely that he did, indeed, infer that Max’s lap was better before he made his statement implying it.

Whatever; it’s Eddie. It’s bks.

Agreed, as Lewis was faster (kph) over the start/finish (at the pole time start), and quicker through sector one ( seconds) its highly improbable that max would have been to the first corner first, on a head to head of pole laps.

Live timing is available to all journalists (as us now too).

Max needed to find, 0.170 + extra in sector 3 that’s what 12/14 meters short when Lewis crossed the line.

Edit btw, that was Max’s best sectors across the entire quali, let alone one lap.

Edited by Deesee on Thursday 20th September 11:31

[Jasandjules]

The only way to find out how good Max is will be to put him in a Merc. Or Lewis in the RB....

[Deesee]

Jasandjules said:

The only way to find out how good Max is will be to put him in a Merc. Or Lewis in the RB....

Na, give them p1/2/3, in Williams and see which one could drag it into q3.

(Damn autospell)

[Derek Smith]

Interesting bit from a columnist about Hamilton in Autosport this week. He obviously thinks he's at the peak of his skills. There's a comparison between him and Vettel.

It's interesting and there's a lot of stuff that would explain a lot.

Also, a bit on YouTube from April, which shows the relationship between Wolff and Hamilton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebr1kZu4s8o

I could not help but like the pair of them.

Wolff seems unique amongst manager, from way back as well. He mentions not being able to sleep one night at Monaco in '17. He also states he hates loosing as 'the pain lasts so much longer'.

Edited by Derek Smith on Friday 21st September 08:58

[Deesee]

In regards to the EJ comments

Lewis V Max side by side (or is it Dani Rick).

Anyway, side by side, with timing also broken down mini sectors.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JJLOMyjBf4

[Hungrymc]

Deesee said:

In regards to the EJ comments

Lewis V Max side by side (or is it Dani Rick).

Anyway, side by side, with timing also broken down mini sectors.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JJLOMyjBf4

That's remarkable, The Merc slowly builds a lead through large portions of the lap and the RedBull closes the gap so quickly in two or three places. In fact the Merc seems to carry more speed through most of the corners. I guess the scale is very small so the rate of change is exaggerated, but that's still incredible.

[sparta6]

Jasandjules said:

The only way to find out how good Max is will be to put him in a Merc. Or Lewis in the RB....

+1

Would be interesting to see if Lewis could keep up with Max

[TheLimla]

sparta6 said:

Jasandjules said:

The only way to find out how good Max is will be to put him in a Merc. Or Lewis in the RB....

+1

Would be interesting to see if Lewis could keep up with Max

Haha

[anonymous-user]

Lewis just showed again how much better he is against Vettel in a head to head battle.

Vettel placement of the car when attacking and defending is just poor.

[sparta6]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Lewis just showed again how much better he is against Vettel in a head to head battle.

Vettel placement of the car when attacking and defending is just poor.

And the Ferrari is a slower car.
Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

[anonymous-user]

sparta6 said:

And the Ferrari is a slower car.
Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

Exactly.

Vettel has just been very disappointing, to say the least.

No doubt noted by Ferrari.

[paulguitar]

sparta6 said:

And the Ferrari is a slower car.
Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

Max has been quite effective in defense because he has demonstrated on more than one occasion that he is prepared to endanger others. That’s why you see some extreme caution from older, wiser drivers when they are fighting him for position.

So far that has been good for Max, but I have some serious concerns that he is going to cause an almighty accident before something is done about him.

[anonymous-user]

paulguitar said:

Max has been quite effective in defense because he has demonstrated on more than one occasion that he is prepared to endanger others. That’s why you see some extreme caution from older, wiser drivers when they are fighting him for position.

So far that has been good for Max, but I have some serious concerns that he is going to cause an almighty accident before something is done about him.

Magnussen is far more dangerous IMO.

[TheLimla]

They're both hotheads in that respect yes! Something you don't want when fighting for a championship. It seems unlikely Magnassen will get himself in that position but Verstappen could be next year and could lose championships by not keeping a cool head!

[glazbagun]

paulguitar said:

sparta6 said:

And the Ferrari is a slower car.
Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

Max has been quite effective in defense because he has demonstrated on more than one occasion that he is prepared to endanger others. That’s why you see some extreme caution from older, wiser drivers when they are fighting him for position.

So far that has been good for Max, but I have some serious concerns that he is going to cause an almighty accident before something is done about him.

Yeah I think Max is great going forward, but when he's being eaten by the field he's a real liability. They should have jumped on him back at Spa when he was weaving in front of Kimi and he might have learned something by now.

[paua]

glazbagun said:

paulguitar said:

sparta6 said:

And the Ferrari is a slower car.
Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

Max has been quite effective in defense because he has demonstrated on more than one occasion that he is prepared to endanger others. That’s why you see some extreme caution from older, wiser drivers when they are fighting him for position.

So far that has been good for Max, but I have some serious concerns that he is going to cause an almighty accident before something is done about him.

Yeah I think Max is great going forward, but when he's being eaten by the field he's a real liability. They should have jumped on him back at Spa when he was weaving in front of Kimi and he might have learned something by now.

His learning gene is missing.

[DJFish]

Apologies if this is cross posting & has been mentioned elsewhere but Max didn’t seem at all impressed when Welsh Steve bloke intimated in the post race interview that all the other drivers stay away from him as they expect him to pull a dick move (I’m paraphrasing obviously)...

[Mr Tidy]

sparta6 said:

Verstappen defends better in a slower car.

But he has nothing to lose - he's not fighting for a title at present.

As good as he is, if the Red Bull ever becomes a championship contender I can see Max losing a title due to "over-exuberance" let's say!

[ukaskew]

Mr Tidy said:

But he has nothing to lose - he's not fighting for a title at present.

As good as he is, if the Red Bull ever becomes a championship contender I can see Max losing a title due to "over-exuberance" let's say!

Good point. Pressure does funny things to you, he's been pretty well protected in that respect so far, a golden boy in a team where at the moment any podium/win is a nice bonus.