Lewis Hamilton
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paua said:
E-bmw said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Well done LH a Five time world champion shame about the racing incident between DR & SV.
Bit previous mate, not quite.
yonex said:
Do you think that our resident Swindon gangster might start paying his taxes now?
Do you think you might at least get his home town right before letting your jealousy erupt all over another post? If you had the talent and the brains to live the way he does you'd do it in a heartbeat and don't protest otherwise. The real question should be why is the tax system in this country so onerous and wasteful that it drives thousand of people like Hamilton away. That said waking up with a view over Swindon (sic) is hardly a comparison to Monaco's harbour, but of course it's ALL about taxes. FFS!!!!!cb1965 said:
yonex said:
Do you think that our resident Swindon gangster might start paying his taxes now?
Do you think you might at least get his home town right before letting your jealousy erupt all over another post? If you had the talent and the brains to live the way he does you'd do it in a heartbeat and don't protest otherwise. The real question should be why is the tax system in this country so onerous and wasteful that it drives thousand of people like Hamilton away. That said waking up with a view over Swindon (sic) is hardly a comparison to Monaco's harbour, but of course it's ALL about taxes. FFS!!!!!
Yonex... What are your thoughts re Jenson Button deserting Frome for Monaco and then California, not paying his taxes in good old Blighty? Genuine question
HighwayStar said:
I couldn't even be bothered to point out he got his home town wrong as 'gangster' fairly much tells us his views/where he's coming from... What we say won't change that... would he know what (sic) means?
Yonex... What are your thoughts re Jenson Button deserting Frome for Monaco and then California, not paying his taxes in good old Blighty? Genuine question
Honestly, I think it's a disgrace. What he does outside the car has no bearing upon his talent but it's funny you're labelling me whilst overlooking all the ridiculous things he has come out with. Yonex... What are your thoughts re Jenson Button deserting Frome for Monaco and then California, not paying his taxes in good old Blighty? Genuine question
yonex said:
HighwayStar said:
I couldn't even be bothered to point out he got his home town wrong as 'gangster' fairly much tells us his views/where he's coming from... What we say won't change that... would he know what (sic) means?
Yonex... What are your thoughts re Jenson Button deserting Frome for Monaco and then California, not paying his taxes in good old Blighty? Genuine question
Honestly, I think it's a disgrace. What he does outside the car has no bearing upon his talent but it's funny you're labelling me whilst overlooking all the ridiculous things he has come out with. Yonex... What are your thoughts re Jenson Button deserting Frome for Monaco and then California, not paying his taxes in good old Blighty? Genuine question
I guess I am labelling you but with your gangster comment you basically set yourself up didn't you... and getting his home town wrong.
I've just popped £40mil, Lewis's pay, into Google... I don't know how accurate it is but basically he'd pay away £18.8 in tax. What would you do...
It's a big wide world out there. I'm not going to presume you'd be off. Plenty of wealthy people stay (and still don't pay their fair share whilst living here) but surely you can understand why someone with that kind of income might want to live somewhere else. World travel is part of many racing series. It's not difficult to see how a Lewis, Button, Ricciardo WRC drivers, actors, you name it, decide to settle in another part of the world. It's call opportunity.
Why is it wrong to want to live elsewhere. As I said, wealthy people move to the UK too.
yonex said:
Because they don't like paying into a system which benefits everyone?
Firstly, how do you know what taxes lewis does and doesn't pay?Secondly, why would Lewis pay full taxes in a country that he doesn't live?
Thirdly, its been done over and over before, as a sportsperson or any other form of contractor, Lewis will be paying taxes on the portion of salary/ winnings/ bonus in every country he visits. ie at the Silverstone GP he will pay taxes on 1/21 of his annual pay.
Taxes are paid to help fund the NHS, police, retirement, fire, etc. in the UK. How many of these services do you think he will use while sat in Colorado or Monoco?
Finally. while youre b
hing and moaning about him paying taxes...id bet my bottom dollar he pays more taxes than you, despite not using services like the NHSEdited by 37chevy on Monday 22 October 12:16
37chevy said:
yonex said:
Because they don't like paying into a system which benefits everyone?
Firstly, how do you know what taxes lewis does and doesn't pay?Secondly, why would Lewis pay full taxes in a country that he doesn't live?
Thirdly, its been done over and over before, as a sportsperson or any other form of contractor, Lewis will be paying taxes on the portion of salary/ winnings/ bonus in every country he visits. ie at the Silverstone GP he will pay taxes on 1/21 of his annual pay.
Taxes are paid to help fund the NHS, police, retirement, fire, etc. in the UK. How many of these services do you think he will use while sat in Colorado or Monoco?
Finally. while youre b
hing and moaning about him paying taxes...id bet my bottom dollar he pays more taxes than you, despite not using services like the NHSEdited by anonymous-user on Monday 22 October 12:16
That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on 
How is taxation even relevant?
If he pays the taxes he is legally obliged to pay then thats what he should do. If some people think he should be obliged to pay more then vote for a government that will make that happen.
I bet the people here complaining about Lewis paying tax take full advantage of their personal allowance? IMO its just the same, but for someone who live abroad its just more complicated.
If he pays the taxes he is legally obliged to pay then thats what he should do. If some people think he should be obliged to pay more then vote for a government that will make that happen.
I bet the people here complaining about Lewis paying tax take full advantage of their personal allowance? IMO its just the same, but for someone who live abroad its just more complicated.
blueg33 said:
How is taxation even relevant?
If he pays the taxes he is legally obliged to pay then thats what he should do. If some people think he should be obliged to pay more then vote for a government that will make that happen.
I bet the people here complaining about Lewis paying tax take full advantage of their personal allowance? IMO its just the same, but for someone who live abroad its just more complicated.
The tax argument is trotted out time and again by the hard of thinking. They now even portray it as if he pays no tax. It's just jealousy and blind hatred of someone they have likely never properly met..... and one can only 'wonder' why they single Hamilton out when plenty of others do likewise including the politicians who make the rules If he pays the taxes he is legally obliged to pay then thats what he should do. If some people think he should be obliged to pay more then vote for a government that will make that happen.
I bet the people here complaining about Lewis paying tax take full advantage of their personal allowance? IMO its just the same, but for someone who live abroad its just more complicated.
cb1965 said:
Yes, but don't let any of that sort of logical argument get in the way of the rant of a jealous sad little man. No matter what anyone says he'll find more and more reasons to hate the 'Swindon Gangster' That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on
It's not a rant, it's a statement. Do you only form opinions about those that you meet? As I said, you can dance around playing the 'race card' all you like, nothing is further from the truth. It's what he has said and done outside of the car in the public forum which has formed my opinion. I am sure he's very happy. But I guess he's a personal friend of yours? That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on HighwayStar said:
I'm not particularly bothered about what they say and do outside the car... For instance Max, he's a very talented driver... he comes out with all sorts of ridiculous things but he's human, he's young and he's not perfect. I don't expect Lewis or anyone to be perfect. I have a friend that comes out with some proper rubbish and we tell him when he does. Ultimately he's a good bloke so we let it go... I can see why Lewis gets peoples backs up...
I guess I am labelling you but with your gangster comment you basically set yourself up didn't you... and getting his home town wrong.
I've just popped £40mil, Lewis's pay, into Google... I don't know how accurate it is but basically he'd pay away £18.8 in tax. What would you do...
It's a big wide world out there. I'm not going to presume you'd be off. Plenty of wealthy people stay (and still don't pay their fair share whilst living here) but surely you can understand why someone with that kind of income might want to live somewhere else. World travel is part of many racing series. It's not difficult to see how a Lewis, Button, Ricciardo WRC drivers, actors, you name it, decide to settle in another part of the world. It's call opportunity.
Why is it wrong to want to live elsewhere. As I said, wealthy people move to the UK too.
What is crazy is to treat no one as an individual. If HMRC said to him you can come back to the UK and pay 3mil tax. We would still be 3 million better off plus huge indirect taxes and the employer and employee contributions of his staff. Multiply that by all the high earning people who have left to pay less tax and dispassionately it would be a great idea. I assume currently it would break EU tax laws and be unpopular with the envious. I guess I am labelling you but with your gangster comment you basically set yourself up didn't you... and getting his home town wrong.
I've just popped £40mil, Lewis's pay, into Google... I don't know how accurate it is but basically he'd pay away £18.8 in tax. What would you do...
It's a big wide world out there. I'm not going to presume you'd be off. Plenty of wealthy people stay (and still don't pay their fair share whilst living here) but surely you can understand why someone with that kind of income might want to live somewhere else. World travel is part of many racing series. It's not difficult to see how a Lewis, Button, Ricciardo WRC drivers, actors, you name it, decide to settle in another part of the world. It's call opportunity.
Why is it wrong to want to live elsewhere. As I said, wealthy people move to the UK too.
yonex said:
cb1965 said:
Yes, but don't let any of that sort of logical argument get in the way of the rant of a jealous sad little man. No matter what anyone says he'll find more and more reasons to hate the 'Swindon Gangster' That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on
It's not a rant, it's a statement. Do you only form opinions about those that you meet? As I said, you can dance around playing the 'race card' all you like, nothing is further from the truth. It's what he has said and done outside of the car in the public forum which has formed my opinion. I am sure he's very happy. But I guess he's a personal friend of yours? That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on Oh and it is a rant, the need to keep trotting out reason after reason why you don't like him and taking pops at anyone who says anything to the contrary. You need to get a grip and just accept that he's far more talented and successful than you and that others enjoy what he does.
As for being a personal friend, nope... but I'm not the one calling him a 'gangster' and trying to pretend he's some sort of tax evading criminal am I?
yonex said:
cb1965 said:
Yes, but don't let any of that sort of logical argument get in the way of the rant of a jealous sad little man. No matter what anyone says he'll find more and more reasons to hate the 'Swindon Gangster' That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on
It's not a rant, it's a statement. Do you only form opinions about those that you meet? As I said, you can dance around playing the 'race card' all you like, nothing is further from the truth. It's what he has said and done outside of the car in the public forum which has formed my opinion. I am sure he's very happy. But I guess he's a personal friend of yours? That said if his view is formed from the numerous times he's met him in person then fair enough..... oh hang on He didn't show up in London for the F1 event in '17? It didn't fit in with his prep for Silverstone. Mercedes backed and were perfectly happy for him to miss the event. The majority of people who b
hed about it were trolls or don't like him anyway.Remember the images of him crowd surfing after winning the British Grand, true fans who aren't so focused on a persons flaws...
yonex said:
It's not a rant, it's a statement. Do you only form opinions about those that you meet? As I said, you can dance around playing the 'race card' all you like, nothing is further from the truth. It's what he has said and done outside of the car in the public forum which has formed my opinion. I am sure he's very happy. But I guess he's a personal friend of yours?
Well if its a statement then back it up with fact, evidence and proof. otherwise its just a rant by a sad little man. oh and you didn't answer any of the points on my previous post.All overseas ‘athletes’ pay hmrc 50% tax on sponsorship, prize money, endorsements etc on UK based days worked.
Regardless of where they live or where they are from, or who they are.
Only exemptions are the olympics and the like.
Hamilton’s uk taxes will be pretty substantial on uk days worked.
The guy is probably paying 7 figures to hmrc to turn up at silverstone.
Sports people are given a much harder tax regime than say, non Dom business people, oligarchs etc.
If Hamilton was to be a tax payer in the uk (for his day job), I’d actually hazard a guess that HMRC would owe him money, once his worldwide expenses and allowances are taken into consideration.
It’s a world wide role (day job) 21 country’s + a bit of testing.
What about the tax for all these other places, would that be the next question.
Regardless of where they live or where they are from, or who they are.
Only exemptions are the olympics and the like.
Hamilton’s uk taxes will be pretty substantial on uk days worked.
The guy is probably paying 7 figures to hmrc to turn up at silverstone.
Sports people are given a much harder tax regime than say, non Dom business people, oligarchs etc.
If Hamilton was to be a tax payer in the uk (for his day job), I’d actually hazard a guess that HMRC would owe him money, once his worldwide expenses and allowances are taken into consideration.
It’s a world wide role (day job) 21 country’s + a bit of testing.
What about the tax for all these other places, would that be the next question.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
sparta6 said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Max clearly has respect for Lewis and its clear Lewis is very impressed by Max,
Seemingly except for when Max overtakes Lewis. Never known a driver call an overtake "disrespectful" .
you can feel the hate radiate through the computer screen. When you actually read what HAM said however;Hamilton said:
I had a coming-together with Max and it was an unnecessary collision,’ said Hamilton.
It didn’t feel like a respectful manoeuvre and it was a silly manoeuvre for himself because he didn’t finish the race. Obviously, he has made a few mistakes recently.
And then the very next race, at China you had VER on the much quicker tyres coming at HAM and what does he do? HAM suckers him into passing in a stupid place and puts the Red Bull into the weeds blowing a certain victory for VER.It didn’t feel like a respectful manoeuvre and it was a silly manoeuvre for himself because he didn’t finish the race. Obviously, he has made a few mistakes recently.
It’s those types of manoeuvres that put HAM at the top of the tree this year.
Was he pissed off at VER after Bahrain? Undoubtably, but he put him back in his place in some style
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